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Date: Tue Dec  6 09:20:33 2005
From: 6ackpace at gmail.com (6ackpace)
Subject: IT security professionals in demand in 2006

Certification have their place in the industry.it is a base line to  judge a
person and his technical knowledge.
yes i agree to you all about the fact that people with little knowledge or
no knowledge doing this certifications.Also they this certificates require
some prerequisites to write.

*bottom line:it's up to the industry to select right person for right jobs.
*

**
*thank you*
**
*6ackpace


* On 12/6/05, Gautam R. Singh <gautam.singh@...il.com> wrote:
>
> "do we need to code our own OS to be an OS/System administrator" :-P
>
> I think well u usually dont, but u should know the "inner workings" of it
> :)
> But it always good if u code ur own os :)
>
>
> On 12/5/05, sk <sk@...undzero-security.com> wrote:
> >
> > CISSP is bullshit. as eeye said 99% of the security consultants do their
> > pen-tests with automated tools which is pathetic in my opinion.
> > if you cant write exploits, you are no professional, more like a steam
> > blower. how can someone be professional when he doesnt
> > even understand how an exploit works in deep? what if there are custom
> > scripts or exotic daemons installed? without beeing able to audit
> > code and understand how certain bugs are beeing exploited, how can
> > someone
> > think he got enough clue to do a professional security audit?
> > its just a rip off of the customers as simple as that. or would you pay
> > someone to run an automated tool against your host, sit back and wait
> > till a nice pdf statistic is generated so he got something to present to
> > you? of course you wouldnt. in the 90s the people still had to learn on
> > their own and all the mainstream hackers who speak at your conventions
> > didnt
> > learn their knowledge from stupid class rooms.
> > everyone who thinks hes a security professional or even a hacker after
> > he
> > made some certs, is just living in a dream world.
> > then again the media plays well with the steam blowers so they can make
> > a
> > nice living..
> > sorry i just had to say that since its going on my nerves how all these
> > people suddenly think their stupid certs make em special, but then if
> > it comes to knowledge everyone is cluless...
> >
> > -sk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com>
> > To: < full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:01 AM
> > Subject: [Full-disclosure] IT security professionals in demand in 2006
> >
> >
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