full-disclosure - Re: agreed certs dont mean that much..but need experience..

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Date: Fri Dec  9 10:48:30 2005
From: joeljose420 at gmail.com (Joel Jose)
Subject: Re: agreed certs dont mean that much..but need
	experience..

ok so i can take a ccna and then go on to take a ccsp. ccsp is
somewhat less in demand than ccnp. so, finding a learning center is
tougher for ccsp than a ccnp over here. but yes, there are a couple
that do provide it. so actually if i am getting it right, it would be
most appropriate for me to get a ccna and then a ccsp.. graduate from
my college with a BS degree in CS and try to get a job in security..
later i can pursue towards a more advanced cert like a cissp.. is that
right? i assume of course that i would get a job easier with my ccsp
than otherwise. is this the best way to go.. or any better sugestion?
i am ofcourse interested in security.. i have been reading phrack
journals.. and feel extemely fond with the lifestyle of a security
practisioner.. i am fully aware that this is my field of interest.
right now i am the project administrator of a upcoming linux distro
still in its developmental stage.

On 12/9/05, Kerry Thompson <kez-fulld@...pt.gen.nz> wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 19:28 -0800, Joel Jose wrote:
> >
> > ok. so i must now concentrate on getting a vedor certificate. here in
> > my place cisco is a very popular one especially in learning centers.
> > they have a ccna and ccnp as the most popular ones. for me.. as a
> > aspiring security profesional will ccnp be a valid choice?.. or should
> > i go in for a ccsp?
>
> Go for the CCNA first, then think about it. A CCSP is better than a CCNP
> for security work, but both are quite difficult to get if you don't have
> access to the equipment through your job. And you don't always have to
> go through expensive training courses - for the CCNA a good training
> book and a cheap switch & couple of routers from Ebay can generally get
> you through.
>
> Most employers see the CCNA as an entry-level certification which
> indicates you know the basics of network switching and routing. Its not
> a great security cert but its a start.
>
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