full-disclosure - McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x

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Date: Fri Dec  9 21:24:29 2005
From: nodialtone at comcast.net (Byron Copeland)
Subject: McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x

I agree you can't reproduce the "entire" internet.  But in a training
environment, you do have options as these folks have already proven.

www.virtualondemand.com

On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 16:18, Dude VanWinkle wrote:
> On 12/9/05, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@...ohio.edu> wrote:
> > Because I'll catch the kiddies when they try and actually use Metasploit
> > on something, and then they'll get expelled from school after a student
> > conduct hearing.
> 
> Hmm,  when I was working at a state run institute, we had a policy of
> letting the students do things that helped them learn. What better way
> to learn about the importance of error handling than exploiting what
> happens when you dont learn about them?
> 
> Just let them mess around on a private network you say?
> 
> You cant reproduce the internet (except inet2 =P). Also, if a school
> squashes creativity, or hampers research (in what ever form they may
> take) you will not be able to compete in the educational arena.
> 
> If we had busted Chris Claus, he wouldnt have gone on to donate 15 mil
> for the new Claus College of Computing ;-)
> 
> -JP (the retard)
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