full-disclosure - a call for full-disclosure to become a moderatedlist

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Date: Thu Dec 15 20:58:37 2005
From: Chris at thebillguy.com (Chris Locke)
Subject: a call for full-disclosure to become a
	moderatedlist

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of mis@...den.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:20 AM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] a call for full-disclosure to become a moderatedlist

it seems to me that without a moderator (since there is the apparent
absence of people who are moderate, or even civilized), this list will
continue its degeneration into a never-ending pissing contest.

(some people don't seem to think that the social compact one accepts
when joining a list applies to them.

my most recent attempt to politely, in direct email, ask one of the 
offenders to stop doing this sort of thing on the list ...  was posted
with a twerpy reply right back to the list).  (no good deed goes
unpunished).

how many people who actually find value in this list (which i have,
since len rose set it up quite a long time ago) agree with this
position?

if you think there's a compelling reason for no moderation, i'd like to hear it.

i call to your attention three brief selections from the list charter,
which is at
http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
which i think have been violated recently:

"Members are expected to maintain a reasonable standard of netiquette when posting to the list."
"Disagreements, flames, arguments, and off-topic discussion should be taken off-list wherever possible."
"Gratuitous advertisement, product placement, or self-promotion is forbidden."

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I have my own form of moderation, posts from certain parties and posts with certain words in the subject go directly to my trash folder. 

-chris

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