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Date: Thu Dec 15 07:36:01 2005
From: steve_r125 at yahoo.co.uk (Steve Russell)
Subject: [U] RE: Famous n3td3v quotes - The Director's
	Cut

> On 12/14/05, Nelson Castillo <nelsoneci@...il.com>
wrote:
> Isn't it trolling?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk]
> On Behalf Of n3td3v
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:56 PM
> To: Nelson Castillo;
> full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Famous n3td3v quotes
> - The Director's Cut
> 
> No, thats a different thing from social engineering
> to gather intelligence on
> an individual over an instant message. You should
> learn more on intelligence
> gathering techniques, go read a book or something. 

--- "Stoltz, Eric CIV"
<eric.stoltz@...i.sig54.army.mil> wrote:
> Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
> 
> Technically Social Engineering is the elevation of
> access or status through
> the falsification of identity when communicating
> with an individual.  It is
> basically hacking the human element.  Congrats
> n3td3v someone asks a serious
> question and you insult them.   You are single
> handedly making this list a
> waste of time to read.
> 
> 
> ----------------
> 
> Eric Stoltz
> 
> Network Administrator
> 
> 54th Signal
> 
> Camp Taji, Iraq
> 
> DSN: 318-834-3051
>
> Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
> 
> If this e-mail is marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY it
> may be exempt from
> mandatory disclosure under FOIA. DoD 5400.7R, "DoD
> Freedom of Information Act
> Program", DoD Directive 5230.9, "Clearance of DoD
> Information for Public
> Release", and DoD Instruction 5230.29, "Security and
> Policy Review of DoD
> Information for Public Release" apply.

FYI n3td3v, that's going to hurt - end of story - it's
going to whether you like it or not.

And just in case you missed it...

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Don't mess with the big boys kid... Now you've been
informed by someone that knows.
And before you say anything - yes I know what's it
like to ~mess~ with the DoD.

Regards (with a friendly warning)
-Steve


	
	
		
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