full-disclosure - OT: a call for full-disclosure to become a moderatedlist

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Message-ID: <003e01c6014d$27468380$ea00130a@64DOG>
Date: Thu Dec 15 07:57:10 2005
From: listuser at seifried.org (Kurt Seifried)
Subject: OT: a call for full-disclosure to become a
	moderatedlist

> it seems to me that without a moderator (since there is the apparent
> absence of people who are moderate, or even civilized), this list will
> continue its degeneration into a never-ending pissing contest.

Yup. Such a list already exists:

security@...ts.seifried.org

is a moderated subset of bugtraq, full-disclosure and various vendor lists.

http://lists.seifried.org/mailman/listinfo/security
https://lists.seifried.org/mailman/listinfo/security (certificate has 
expired, buying a new one next week).

Against moderation: it slows things down. Witness Bugtraq, some stuff takes 
up to 3-12+ hours to get through. Witness my list: some stuff will take up 
to 12 hours (because I like to sleep sometimes, or just plain forget to 
moderate when I wake up). While there is a lot of noise there are a lot of 
gems posted to full-disclosure. One secret to filtering: most of the noise 
comes from gmail.com accounts and a half dozen other people (currently I 
have 38 email addresses filtered automatically and this cuts most of the 
spam).

-Kurt 

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