full-disclosure - An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush

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Message-ID: <20051219162259.J30750@ubzr.zsa.bet>
Date: Mon Dec 19 22:27:05 2005
From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson)
Subject: An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ...
	America's future under George Bush

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, TJ wrote:

> So, because war was not declared it doesn't exist?

Not at all.  It clearly exists - we've certainly killed and maimed enough
civilians to prove it.

> No; we are at war - not because of what our President has done / is doing,
> but because we were attacked (again) and are *finally* responding.

Except that he is "responding" to the wrong party (a non-aggressor).  I'm
100% on board with hunting down OBL.  But leave the others alone.

> And - about permitting Iran to develop nuclear power "because the US is a
> bully" ... WTF?  You are talking about Iran, a nation whose leader is
> delusional

And who still runs a SOVERIEGN NATION that has 100% rights to nuclear
power and defense.

> and has voiced support of destroying another nation outright.

Lots of us have voiced support for erasing the mistake that is Israel.

> Good idea on fighting for their right to build nukes.

Yes.  If EVERYONE had nukes then the US wouldn't be able to invade anyone
without repurcussions.

> You may disagree with my position,

I do.

> and that is "fine"

Thank you for your "permission".

> ... but this forum is
> not the correct place to debate the issue - can we please let this list
> return to topic now?

No.  Not yet.

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@....org
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	Just once, can't we have a nice polite discussion about
	the logistics and planning side of large criminal enterprise?

	- Steve Thompson