full-disclosure - [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)

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Date: Mon Dec 19 04:18:12 2005
From: fd at g-0.org (GroundZero Security)
Subject: [Clips] A small editorial about recent
	events.(fwd)

"we in the USA are still the luckiest people on  Earth."
i would not count on that. i feel much saver/happy here in germany.

"We've got it better than any other country on Earth."
lol yeah right.. in your dreamworld maybe. did you even leave usa before ?
i doubt that.

"If you like some other place better, please feel free to move yourself there."
yes thank you! i like it much more here in my country so i stay :-)
i just have to fear that usa starts to take over the world thats all i have to worry about here.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie C. Pole" <jpole@...a.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)


> 
> I'm sorry, but I was also FAR too close to one of the 09/11 attacks.   
> While I agree that giving up (supposedly) certain civil liberties is  
> most decidedly not a good thing, we need to remember one key point -  
> the same liberal whiners that are complaining about the monitoring of  
> certain targeted individuals would be shitting themselves to get in  
> line to scream about the President not doing enough to protect us if  
> there was another attack.  This was not a blanket wiretap against  
> every citizen that made a telephone call to London.  These taps were  
> conducted under defined circumstances.  If you are not a terrorist,  
> and do not associate with terrorists, you have nothing to worry  
> about.  The indignation being shown by the liberals right now is  
> shocking - this information was not news to anyone within Congress  
> (from either party) that was in a position to know it.
> 
> What good are civil liberties if you are being buried in a mass grave  
> as a victim of another terrorist attack?  Are you going to try to  
> exercise your freedom of speech from beyond the grave?
> 
> I like Perry - he used to work for me back in the 90's, but he is  
> wrong about this.
> 
> I know all of the cliches about freedom never being lost all at once,  
> and societies willing to trade freedom for security deserving neither  
> and having none (I know I butchered that one - my apologies to the  
> original author), and all of the other little jabs that liberals are  
> falling back on right now, but like him or not, there has not been  
> another attack on our homeland since 09/11.  Difficult decisions need  
> to be made from time to time, and Bush is making them.  I think it's  
> hysterical that most of the loudest of the loudmouths were strangely  
> silent when Clinton did many of the same things.
> 
> Even with a government that is actively protecting us from these  
> terrorist scumbags, we in the USA are still the luckiest people on  
> Earth.  We've got it better than any other country on Earth.  If you  
> like some other place better, please feel free to move yourself there.
> 
> JCP
> 
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