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Message-ID: <20051219184852.N13015@ubzr.zsa.bet>
Date: Tue Dec 20 00:53:54 2005
From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson)
Subject: An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ...
	America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread


Amen - sing it brother!

America is odd in that is is an active supporter of terrorism (Israel), an
active participant in terrorism (Iraq, iran, Cuba, Afghanistan, etc.),,
and an exporter of terrorism (by proxy in ~6 Euro countries), yet we fully
don't understand why everyone dances for joy when we get dead.

America is the King of the Hypocrites, as well as the #1 terrorism state
today.  A moment's reflection would do us a world of good, were it even
possible.  But it's not.  We are a nation of macho Rambo's, like GI Shmoe
over there with his "willing to die for freedom" crap...

We have the ability to make things better for millions of people (not even
includding those here at home), yet we are happiest when killing those
around us.

Go figure?


On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 qballus@...il.com wrote:

> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:45:12 +1100
> From: qballus@...il.com
> To: trejrco@...il.com
> Cc: Full-Disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ...
>     America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread
>
> If the US spent 1/10th of the time and money on preventing something like
> drink driving, it'd be saving tens of thousands of more lives, net. Put it
> into proprtion. Terrorism is not an issue, but it's foreign policy is.
>
> On 12/20/05, TJ <trejrco@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, there is always more than one side to every story.
> >
> > And, yes - everyone has a right to *peaceable* nuclear power.  *Peaceable*
> > being the key word there ... as for saying "Good for the goose, good for
> > the
> > gander" - NO; when people are killing innocents they deserve to not have
> > the
> > chance to continue.
> >
> > I'm sorry - has Bush ever said he wanted to wipe Iran off the map?
> > I doubt it.
> >
> > Actually no, I am pretty comfortable with the situation IN the US - I am
> > apparently arguing with those who would rather have more innocent
> > Americans
> > die and have more nuclear-capable terrorists.
> >
> > It has nothing to do with getting the last word - I was going to let it
> > drop, until someone called me "weak".  A stinging insult indeed!
> >
> >
> > If you cared about more than spreading garbage, you'd take the high-road
> > and
> > take this "discussion" offlist ... like others have correctly done.
> >
> >
> > No further on-list comments.
> > /TJ ... sorry to have added to this thread even more, I hate feeding
> > trolls.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Byron Sonne [mailto:blsonne@...ers.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:32 PM
> > To: trejrco@...il.com ; Full-Disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ...
> > America's future under George Bush
> >
> > > And - about permitting Iran to develop nuclear power "because the US is
> > a
> > > bully" ... WTF?
> >
> > More than one side to the story, homes... everyone has the right to
> > peacable nuclear power. Even if they did develop nukes, it's in their
> > right. If the USA, Russia + satellite states, France, UK, India,
> > Pakistan and Israel are allowed to do it, why not anyone else? Good for
> > the goose, good for the gander.
> >
> > The USA failed to lead by example, and are now reaping the rewards.
> >
> > > You are talking about Iran, a nation whose leader is
> > > delusional and has voiced support of destroying another nation outright.
> >
> > Susbistute 'USA' for 'Iran' and the sentence sounds like the same crap
> > other people say about the USA. You sound just like the jerks that your
> > troops are allegedly fighting against. Ever consider there's some brown
> > skinned dude in a turban thinking almost the same kind of thoughts as
> > you, except it's about America instead?
> >
> > The USA has made it's bed, and now you're finding it uncomfortable to
> > sleep in? Haha.
> >
> > > You may disagree with my position, and that is "fine" ... but this forum
> > is
> > > not the correct place to debate the issue - can we please let this list
> > > return to topic now?
> >
> > So as long as you get your last word in, everyone has to shut up? Feh.
> > Weak dude.
> >
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-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
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