full-disclosure - list name change suggestion

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Message-ID: <64140B251342044999F1B85B3DC6A159F1EEAF@mv-exch01.cybersource_nt.com>
Date: Fri Dec 23 19:31:03 2005
From: jhengels at cybersource.com (Hengels, Jason)
Subject: list name change suggestion

Yes, it will be like the famous Christmas Truce of World War I... ;-)
http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/christmastruce.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of PCSC
Information Services
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 7:55 AM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] list name change suggestion

<rant>
I've been on the list for a couple of years now... and what used to  
be a quite credible list has now degraded into a list with a very low  
signal/noise ratio...  While I have not submitted any  
vulnerabilities, I have enjoyed the discussions of the same, and have  
used this list to illustrate to clients what specifically can happen  
by leaving themselves exposed.
The purpose and intent of this list is to provide Full Disclosure,  
often beating Vendors own admissions of vulnerabilities or flaws in  
their software. With the new paradigm of submit > flame >> flame  
harder >> flame even harder etc... I suggest that the new list name  
be flame-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk as it will be more clear to the  
security community what it is that's being accomplished on this list.
If you're under 30, no matter what kind of education you have, you  
still have plenty that you can learn... if you're over 30, no matter  
what kind of education you have, you're still human...we all make  
mistakes, hell, I might even be making one suggesting that we all  
just try to show each other some professional courtesy, especially to  
the newer younger members who are trying to cut their teeth in a  
fairly corrupt and colluded industry.

In the spirit of the holiday season, wouldn't it be nice to just have  
some ceasefire?

info AT pcsage DOT biz

Herry Qwanakkadanmas!

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