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Message-ID: <20060104193310.38179.qmail@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Jan  4 20:01:12 2006
From: dantrevino at yahoo.com (Dan Trevino)
Subject: Unofficial Microsoft patches help hackers,
	not security


Er...whether its patched my Microsoft or patched by a hacker, the hacker still has the rootkit installed.  Your suggestion is to give the hackers more time to install their rootkits?  Brilliant. 
  
dan  
  (sorry for the top-posting, not at my normal workstation)

----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Average <yahooinsider@...il.com>
To: Niek <niek@...ak.coding-slaves.com>; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Sent: Wed 04 Jan 2006 01:49:58 PM EST
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Unofficial Microsoft patches help hackers, not security

>From my blog:
  
 ""[Unofficial patches are available, as is a leaked official patch] [Unofficial patches are merely used by hackers as a tool to patch machines they've compromised, to stop other hackers hacking the same machine, although the machine is still accessable to the hacker.] [The consumer goes along to Windows Update on Tuesday and doesn't think they need a patch, because Microsoft tells them its not needed. Little does the consumer know their machine was patched by a hacker, who now has control over their computer network.]"" 
  
 It means the unofficial patch is as harmful as the vulnerability and exploit code its self.

 
 On 1/4/06, Niek <niek@...ak.coding-slaves.com> wrote: On 1/4/2006 7:33 PM +0100, Joe Average wrote:
> ........ The majority of consumers aren't
> getting your unofficial patches, but you can be sure the hackers are using 
> them, and using them to their advantage.

Yeah hackers are now using the unofficial patch to protect themselves!!!
nooooooooooooooooo

Niek
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