full-disclosure - Secure Delete for Windows

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Date: Tue Jan 17 22:20:17 2006
From: ad at heapoverflow.com (ad@...poverflow.com)
Subject: Secure Delete for Windows

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it's against the charter true but it's tolerated because you arent the
first to promote your tool and you won't be the last, idefense,
immunity , cirt.dk , they promote all their works and I wish they will
continue, just ignore the bad comments about this , or at least if it
was comments from an useful person,  but in this case, GTi has nothing
to say on this list.

sk wrote:
> thank you for the constructive feedback. at least it was usefull
> and not just some random flame. i do appriciate your comment, i
> dont agree with some points though. it may be the default business
> strategy, but if a single person (or a handfull) think they have to
> complain that i announce a security application here, i do argue
> about it. then again, i should better ignore such random bullshit
> as there will be always some smart ass who thinks he has to post a
> negative and senseless comment.
>
>> I guess you only consider orders useful.  I wonder how you
>> respond to complaints about bugs?
>
> i'd appriciate it as then we can make the software more stable.
> thats only good.
>
>> Remember! Swearing at your customers shows them who's boss!
> done with sarcasm ?
>
>> ** this is not an endorsement or support of any community
>> members, but rather an observation that it is typical business
>> practice to treat even the most annoying potential customer with
>> respect.
>
> i know that those arent even potential customers so thats why. a
> real customer, of course, will receive a friendly response.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvan Boily" <yboily@...il.com>
> To: "GroundZero Security" <fd@....org> Cc: <virus@...og.org>;
> <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006
> 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows
>
>
>> Now for the lesson on business communication:
>>
>> 1. Dealing with open source proponents:
>>> also not everyone posts their source so what is your fucking
>>> problem?!
>> 2. Elliciting positive feedback:
>>> my god if you dont have anything usefull to say, then why dont
>>> you stfu.
>> 3. Commenting on community members**:
>>> it seems suddenly after this n3td0rk shit, everyone starts his
>>> own little flame wars over nothing
>> Remember! Swearing at your customers shows them who's boss!
>>
>> ---
>>
>> I guess you only consider orders useful.  I wonder how you
>> respond to complaints about bugs?
>>
>> Just a note; if you are going to market your product to people
>> try to avoid making a negative impression!  And certainly, reply
>> to people individually as you will, but if you are going to blast
>> someone then do it privately.  I know this is not really my
>> nature, but then again, I am not marketing products!
>>
>> ** this is not an endorsement or support of any community
>> members, but rather an observation that it is typical business
>> practice to treat even the most annoying potential customer with
>> respect.
>>
> _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure -
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>
>
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