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Message-ID: <43CDA919.1010405@science.org>
Date: Wed Jan 18 02:33:37 2006
From: jasonc at science.org (Jason Coombs)
Subject: Secure Delete for Windows

GroundZero Security wrote:
> why do people run firewalls,IDS or Anti Virus ? no they dont care about security,
> they just want to know whats the name of the virus that just hit their box, or see
> who may just be accessing their system as obviously noone is trying to be secure.
> you really made me realize all i need is full disclosure! who needs patches as long
> as you know what is vulnerable. why patch at least you KNOW whats buggy, right?

Your belief that firewalls and A/V provide people with security is so 
1990's ... how quaint and nostalgic. you really are starting from ground 
zero, aren't you? good luck with that...

Give me bugs that are well-understood and keep your stinking patches to 
yourself. we don't need no stinking patches.

Jason Coombs
jasonc@...ence.org

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