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Message-ID: <8C7E9FED50364DD-514-10015@FWM-D03.sysops.aol.com>
Date: Wed Jan 18 04:29:36 2006
From: greybrimstone at aim.com (greybrimstone@....com)
Subject: Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools

I think its up for debate. Business and ethics aren't one in the same.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
To: H D Moore <hdm@...italoffense.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk 
<full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:20:31 +0200
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools

  H D Moore wrote:
 > You should check out the Metasploit Framework:
 > - http://metasploit.com/projects/Framework/
 > > <rant>
  > When I viewed the online demo of SAINT Exploit in December of 2005, 
nearly > all of their exploit modules had names very similar to the 
ones found in > version 2.5 of the Metasploit Framework. The demo has 
been updated since > then and a handful of new exploits have been mixed 
in while others had > their name changed. Oh, and their placement of a 
Google Adword on > "metasploit" was a nice touch...
 > </rant>

 Speaking of Google..
  I had the unfortunate fortune of working on an ad campaign recently. 
It brought to the fore many questions.. some of them were about this.

  If I put an adword on "symantec", don't I breach their trademark, or 
Google does?

  I doubt anyone would sue Google to find out, or be in courts for so 
long it won't matter any longer.

 Annoying, but works both ways.

 Gadi.
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