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Message-ID: <200601181714.k0IHETZR027346@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Wed Jan 18 17:15:18 2006
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu)
Subject: Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools 

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:13:05 CST, "Madison, Marc" said:
> H D, my apologize.  My FD emails were out of order, and I took your
> response out of context.  If your looking for a script that will combine
> MetaSploit, and Nessus then BidiBLAH will work.  Still for $10 grand I
> would suggest taking a scripting class at your local college so you can
> make your own BidiBlah.
> 
> Math:
> BidiBLAH:				$10,000
> College scripting class:		$350
> 
> The knowledge you'll gain for ever, priceless.

Something to keep in mind however - many people make that comparison, and
don't calculate the *TOTAL* cost.

If your developer is getting paid $60K/year, the *encumbered* cost (benefits,
office, etc) is close to twice that.  And if he's writing an in-house BidiBLAh,
that's time he's *not* writing stuff you *can't* buy off-the-shelf.
As a result, it breaks out as:

BidiBLAH:         $10,000

scripting clss:	     $350
6 man-weeks time: $15,000

OK? Got that?  Suddenly doesn't look like such a good deal, does it?  Maybe
you *should* just buy BidiBLAH, and have that guy coding that custom interface
between two in-house systems instead....

(And don't say "I only pay my developer $30K, so he can take 2 man-months to
do it" - the kind of developer you can keep for $30K is probably going to take
a lot more than twice as long as the $60K developer.....)
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