Date: Fri Jan 20 07:03:24 2006
From: nekramer at mindtheater.net (Nancy Kramer)
Subject: Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices

I guess I will stick with Kasperky which will probably phone home to Russia 
or something.  Does anyone have any experience with the Firewall that comes 
with paid AVG?  I just run free AVG currently on most computers so have not 
used it .

Regards,

Nancy Kramer

At 01:15 AM 1/20/2006, hummer@...eranger.com wrote:

>I have been following this discussion waiting for someone to mention 
>another "feature" of Zone Alarm:
>Posted January 13, 3:00 a.m. PST Pacific Time,
>ROBERT X. CRINGELY                             http://www.infoworld.com/
>
>A Perfect Spy? It seems that ZoneAlarm Security Suite has been phoning
>home, even when told not to. Last fall, InfoWorld Senior Contributing
>Editor James Borck discovered ZA 6.0 was surreptitiously sending
>encrypted data back to four different servers, despite disabling all of
>the suite's communications options. Zone Labs denied the flaw for nearly
>two months, then eventually chalked it up to a "bug" in the software --
>even though instructions to contact the servers were set out in the
>program's XML code. A company spokesmodel says a fix for the flaw will
>be coming soon and worried users can get around the bug by modifying
>their Host file settings. However, there's no truth to the rumor that
>the NSA used ZoneAlarm to spy on U.S. citizens.
>
>
>:)
>
>Hummer
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Kramer" <nekramer@...dtheater.net>
>To: "Greg" <full-disclosure2@...andyman.com.au>; 
><full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:27 PM
>Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices
>
>
>>I have the paid ZA but I heard the free one was better.  Have no idea 
>>about that but would never buy the paid version again.  At least now I 
>>know what was happening.  Will try to look for that feature and set it to 
>>the maximum minutes.  I only have it on my laptop which only goes on the 
>>internet sporadically but generally goes on the internet on public 
>>wireless networks which I think may not be all that secure.  Lots of 
>>times I am meeting with someone there and we talk and then lookup 
>>something on the internet.  I could see how time could pass quickly and I 
>>might not touch the computer for awhile.  Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Nancy Kramer
>>
>>
>>   At 10:10 PM 1/19/2006, Greg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>>> > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf
>>> > Of Nancy Kramer
>>> > Sent: Friday, 20 January 2006 2:30 PM
>>> > To: Stan Bubrouski; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>>> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I admit I know nothing about firewalls but with ZA I have had
>>> > to shut it
>>> > down sometimes to go onto the internet.  I have no idea why.
>>> > I just can't
>>> > get on and when I shut it down I can.
>>> >
>>>
>>>That'd be a well known and never fixed bug I reported to Zonelabs some years
>>>back now. It has a feature to automatically lock internet connection after
>>>so many minutes of inactivity. The length of time can be changed by the
>>>user. What it REALLY did was cut off access to internet and any LAN you were
>>>on, isolating you entirely and never actually let go of it when the user was
>>>back at the keyboard. Exiting ZA let that go and internet and lan were
>>>restored. You have the option to turn that feature OFF but even that didn't
>>>stop the whole thing happening. So, about the only thing you could do was to
>>>set the auto lock as high as it could go and turn the feature off. It would
>>>still go off after that many minutes had passed (which I believe is 999 in
>>>the PRO version and 99 in the free version) and lock you out again but it
>>>was delayed by that much, at least.
>>>
>>>You CAN set certain programs to pass by its' lock, however. So, if you have
>>>some computers almost always chattering away on a distributed project but
>>>otherwise not touched, you could allow those programs to pass on even
>>>though, should you attempt to get out with a simple web browser (where it
>>>wasn't allowed to pass the lock), you cant. Saves some stuffing about on
>>>such machines and let's face it - the more "free" some company execs see,
>>>the more likely they are to use it. Surprising how many Windows based
>>>companies use free ZA.
>>>
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