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Date: Thu Feb  9 21:14:03 2006
From: stan.bubrouski at gmail.com (Stan Bubrouski)
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Activesync - requesting test

On 2/9/06, Dave Korn <davek_throwaway@...mail.com> wrote:
> Stan Bubrouski wrote:
> > Ever since Greg disagreed with me in that ZoneAlarm thread Dave and I
> > were arguing in, Greg has been forwarding all messages I send to the
> > list back to me.
>
>   Stan, it is possible you could be being manipulated by someone who's
> trying to bait you and Greg into a fight by forwarding you his postings in a
> spoofed/forged name; that sort of thing happens quite often on this list.

No check the headers they are below.

>
>   As indeed do broken reflectors and autoreplybots and all sorts of
> non-malicious things.
>

He's forwarding them from both addresses he has subscribed to the list.

>   And indeed sometimes flamewars erupt and someone does bombard someone else
> with posts from the list.
>

Yes and the person can unsubscribe or set rules to trash messages from
people they don't like rather than filling their mailboxes like 10
year old script kiddies.

>   Have you checked the headers to see if they're coming from the same IP
> addresses he usually posts from?  It's worth making double sure what's
> actually going on.
>

Yes I did I wouldn't have bothered posting if I didn't, I'd expect
more from Greg though I'm starting to have my doubts about his
competence.

>   Hey, a how-to of tracking headers would even make for an on-topic thread!
>

People on this list using posts to this list to harrass other
contributors is on topic its called full-disclosure not
full-intimidation.

Here are the partial headers judge for yourself:
Delivered-To: stan.bubrouski@...il.com
Received: by 10.54.78.4 with SMTP id a4cs21898wrb;
        Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:33:11 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.64.148.16 with SMTP id v16mr508287qbd;
        Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:33:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <greg@...andyman.com.au>
Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au (vscan02.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.132])
        by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q15si92451qbq.2006.02.08.19.33.08;
        Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:33:10 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 203.10.1.132 is neither permitted
nor denied by best guess record for domain of greg@...andyman.com.au)
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
	by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1D711B456
	for <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>; Thu,  9 Feb 2006 11:33:07 +0800 (WST)
Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (vscan02.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 07529-14 for <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>;
 Thu,  9 Feb 2006 11:33:07 +0800 (WST)
Received: from P4 (dsl-220-235-109-182.nsw.westnet.com.au [220.235.109.182])
	by vscan02.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F001611B94C
	for <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>; Thu,  9 Feb 2006 11:33:06 +0800 (WST)
Return-Receipt-To: "Greg" <greg@...andyman.com.au>
From: "Greg" <greg@...andyman.com.au>
To: <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>
Subject: FW: Re: [Full-disclosure] Bluetooth Activesync - requesting test

And:
X-Gmail-Received: 9f257bbd2acc0b72366a3b169864544d27fde993
Delivered-To: stan.bubrouski@...il.com
Received: by 10.54.78.4 with SMTP id a4cs21924wrb;
        Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:34:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.65.121.15 with SMTP id y15mr2057023qbm;
        Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:34:49 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <full-disclosure2@...andyman.com.au>
Received: from vscan03.westnet.com.au (vscan03.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.142])
        by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si93451qbq.2006.02.08.19.34.48;
        Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:34:49 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 203.10.1.142 is neither permitted
nor denied by best guess record for domain of
full-disclosure2@...andyman.com.au)
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
	by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF11BB607E2
	for <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>; Thu,  9 Feb 2006 11:34:46 +0800 (WST)
Received: from vscan03.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (vscan03.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 20017-05-6 for <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>;
 Thu,  9 Feb 2006 11:34:46 +0800 (WST)
Received: from P4 (dsl-220-235-109-182.nsw.westnet.com.au [220.235.109.182])
	by vscan03.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179A6B60A61
	for <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>; Thu,  9 Feb 2006 11:34:44 +0800 (WST)
Return-Receipt-To: "Greg" <full-disclosure2@...andyman.com.au>
From: "Greg" <full-disclosure2@...andyman.com.au>
To: <stan.bubrouski@...il.com>

Seems downright childish to me (talking about Greg not Dave, I
disagree with Dave but Dave I can respect).

Best Regards,
Stan Bubrouski

>     cheers,
>       DaveK
> --
> Can't think of a witty .sigline today....
>
>

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