lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date: Mon Feb 13 16:04:58 2006
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu)
Subject: Comment Spam: new trends,
	failing counter-measures and why it's a big deal 

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:09:48 +0100, php0t said:

> the global solution against word recognition based challenges? If it was
> like that, it would mean that there is no way anybody could make an
> image generator that would change its success rate from 90% to 0%...

It's *really* *really* difficult to produce a graphic image of letters
and numbers that is still recognizable to a human but can't be beaten by
a good edge-detection algorithm.  For instance, you can "bleed" the edges
so that they're fuzzy - but then the human has a hard time telling if
it's an 'i' or an 'l', or an 'h' or a 'b' (and so on).

I suppose you *could* put up a picture of something, and ask "What is this
a picture of" - but then you need a sufficiently large library of images that
an attacker can't just download all of them and have a human name each one once.
And of course, this has the danger that a user can be left saying: "WTF? Is
that an antelope or a gazelle?"....
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 226 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20060213/4932f78e/attachment.bin

Powered by blists - more mailing lists