full-disclosure - Re: recursive DNS servers DDoS as a growing DDoSproblem

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Message-ID: <EKECJMGPAACGOMIGLJJDIEIBGNAA.geoincidents@nls.net>
Date: Wed Mar  8 18:28:10 2006
From: geoincidents at nls.net (Geo.)
Subject: Re: recursive DNS servers DDoS as a growing
	DDoSproblem

>>In the scenario you describe, I cannot see any actual amplification...

I'll give you a senario where you can see.

lets say you have 2 name servers that are local to you.

I setup a domain, example.com. In this domain I create a text record which is 100K in length, I don't know, perhaps I paste the source code to decss in it, whatever it's a big text record.

Now I simply spoof a UDP packet using your IP address as the source address and send it to both of your dns servers. This packet is a query for the example.com text record. I have now sent two very small packets and you have received 200K of traffic. That's the amplification, one small udp packet, one large text record in return.

Note, I don't have to use your local servers, but this way it makes it more fun to troubleshoot because it looks like you are the cause of your own flooding..

Geo.