full-disclosure - HTTP AUTH BASIC monowall.

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Date: Thu Mar 16 15:53:13 2006
From: simon at snosoft.com (Simon Smith)
Subject: HTTP AUTH BASIC monowall.

Mark,
    Thats a good alternative. I'll add that to my list of options. Thanks!

Mark Coleman wrote:
> At the risk of being flamed, I'll chime in with this since I don't
> think it's been mentioned as an alternative:
>
> How about SecurID one-time passwords?  Ride the HTTP Auth on SSL which
> hides it all, and a Malcolm in the Middle attack just gets
> username/PIN and a one-time password (MitM gives ability to DoS
> lockout your account).
>
> -Mark Coleman
>
>
> gboyce wrote:
>> Ok, so what's your alternative?
>>
>> You're already assuming that the user of the firewall is already
>> misusing SSL.  They need to blindly accept unsigned SSL certificates,
>> and changes to the certificates.  Just about any security
>> restrictions you can apply can be done away with if the user is
>> incompetant enough.
>>
>> Some form of challenge response?  If you can already perform a man in
>> the middle attack, than challenge response is just as vulnerable. 
>> Just connect to the server when the client hits you, and pass them
>> the challenge you recieved.  Use the credential yourself, and pass
>> them a failure.  When they try again, connect them to the server. 
>


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Regards, 
	Jackass