full-disclosure - Re: Noise on the list

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Message-ID: <acdc033d0603211442m49bf8606vd1f1e5d013056cc@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue Mar 21 22:42:22 2006
From: michealespinola at gmail.com (Micheal Espinola Jr)
Subject: Re: Noise on the list

It's certainly easy to take that position (as I previously did as
well), but this list does not represent the Internet as a whole and in
that respect it is not comparative.  This list has a very particular
audience, and it has a very specific intent.

I'm here for Full Disclosure - not the town square soapbox (which I
now find myself on, and I hate it).


On 3/21/06, Sol Invictus <sol@...eyoubeentested.org> wrote:
> This list is unmoderated just like the entire Internet.  If we're going
> to moderate this list, why not the entire Internet?  It's the way Al
> Gore would have wanted it!
>
> Everyone on the Internet carries the responsibility to secure the
> machines under their control.  It's the same here.  If people can't
> control themselves, then one must take the necessary steps to protect
> themselves.
>
> Sol.
>
> Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
>
> >No he shouldn't.  Because if people cannot moderate themselves from
> >childish behavior, and if this list is the target of repeated abuse,
> >it needs some sort of check.
> >
> >I don't think anyone here wants to see actual content moderation - and
> >I don't think that's the answer to the problem anyways. And certainly
> >no one wants the possibility of information not freely flowing.  But
> >this list NEEDS a filter of some sort.  A content/SPF filter of some
> >perhaps?
> >
> >On content:  Perhaps the list can go un-moderated without allowing
> >profanity - thus filtering out a lot of needless bitch sessions [and
> >continued retribution] ?  Certainly there are words that have no place
> >in Full-Disclosure.
> >
> >On SPF:  Perhaps some of the bogus impersonation posts would get
> >caught/blocked by a simple SPF check?
> >
> >I don't need a public spanking for posting this. I'm only trying to
> >think of a way that we can do something about what is becoming the
> >serious decline of the list. I can ignore and filter my email just
> >fine - but I know what's going on and I just want to see things get
> >better.  They seem to continuously get worse.
> >
> >On 3/21/06, Dave Korn <davek_throwaway@...mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Edward Pearson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I shouldn't have to get the fucking spamfilter involved when we're
> >>>talking about a mailing list.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>  Yes, you fucking should.  This is a NON-moderated list.  There are plenty
> >>of perfectly good moderated lists out there which you won't have to filter.
> >>But /this/ list is a non-moderated list, on which every individual
> >>subscriber is handed the full responsibility for and control over what they
> >>do or do not see.  That's the whole point.
> >>
> >>  In short, exactly what you want is perfectly easily available, but you'd
> >>rather complain about something else not being it.  That's like filling your
> >>car with diesel when it takes unleaded, complaining that your tank is now
> >>full of crap that you didn't want in it, and when someone points out that
> >>the other pipe on the same pump gives you unleaded you just stand there,
> >>waving the diesel hose and complaining about how *this* one ought to give
> >>unleaded as well because that's the one you want it to come out of.
> >>
> >>  Go elsewhere and you will be happy.  Go to bugtraq, where you *will* be
> >>spoonfed the prefiltered predigested pap that appears to be what you want.
> >>
> >>    cheers,
> >>      DaveK
> >>--
> >>Can't think of a witty .sigline today....
> >>
> >>
> >>
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