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Message-ID: <20060329061450.81045.qmail@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 29 07:15:25 2006
From: electric_cissp at yahoo.com (the electric)
Subject: S/Mime Exchange 2003 how secure how to secure
	it?

One thing that you may want to considered is "hardening" the devices that are being used.  For instance, a users PDA or Blackberry can be easily attacked if there is protection on it, biometrics, one time passwords, passphrase, etc, are a big help. Second what means are you going to use for accessibility, VPN, SSL, etc.  The security aspect should be the first plan of action before putting rolling out any new platform.   Also you may want to make sure that your users know how to use their devices and what security precaution they should take.  I am sure your company would hate to have one of those devices stolen and find out that the user put his/her username and password in some TXT file.  
   
  

Lyal Collins <lyal.collins@...2it.com.au> wrote:
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  Just forget the password to a certificate/private key, and the company has lost access to any comany records 'protected' by S/MIME, generally in conventional S/MIME setups.  And forget virus/spam scanning too.
   
  Lyal
   
   
   
   
  
  -----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Daniel Sichel
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 3:54 AM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] S/Mime Exchange 2003 how secure how to secure it?


      Directive has just come down from on high, we WILL use email on our Cell Phones/PDAs and non VPN?d laptops.  I am not a messaging guy but at a small telco you wear lots of hats so I could use some real help here. We are upgrading shortly to Exchange 2003 on Windows Server  2003 and want secure email to and from our cell phones etc. So here are my questions
   
  How secure is the built in S/Mime in Exchange 2003 assuming we are using a certificate  for session encryption ? Don?t laugh and hoot, I am looking for real data not speculation. Are there exploits, and if so what is needed to carry them out, physical access, just need the phone number, or what?  Can this be brute forced? 
   
  I would like two factor authentication using the users password and something inherently in the cell phone like a burned in serial number or the DN or something. Is there any support  for such a thing that will work on cell phones and/or PDAs ?
   
  I know OWA sucks on Exchange 5.5 and 2000, how about 2003? Same questions as above, is it exploitable, and if so how? Can we require a machine accessing the OWA site to flush its cache when done? Hopefully this can be forced without requiring an OK click, I just want to do it, no user intervention required (or allowed).
   
  Any help would be welcomed, any Microsoft bashing would be a waste of time since the higher powers have spoken and you know how that goes, So it is written, so shall it be done. 
   
  Thanks  
   
  Daniel Sichel, MCSE, CCNP
Network Engineer
Ponderosa Telephone
   

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