Message-ID: <9A126678CF5FB94BBD7009BFAD86D0100D6CCC@tbgsvr01.TBG.local>
Date: Wed Mar 29 23:53:46 2006
From: Chris at thebillguy.com (Chris Locke)
Subject: Third party patches, a matter of trust by n3td3v

<snip>
If you were a real hacker, you would be able to write leetspeak code manually
</snip>
You sir are a fucking idiot, I think you meant to write "skiddie" instead of hacker, but I guess this just shows us once again the level of YOUR intellect

 
   _____  

From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:49 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Third party patches, a matter of trust by n3td3v


Ok, you're from europe because your address is "googlemail" and not "gmail", secondly your leetspeak script has given you a bad translation. If you were a real hacker, you would be able to write leetspeak code manually, and why the rap lyrics? I mean this just goes to show your level of intellect, in the way you failed to reply in a mature manner on the serious issue of third party patches (from eEye) causing a new generation of security problems for Microsoft and their consumers. 


On 3/29/06, teh kids <HYPERLINK "mailto:tehkids@...glemail.com" \ntehkids@...glemail.com > wrote: 

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[DR. dre]
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[dR. DrE]
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and 8uRy tO Make 5UrE teh TrAdiTioN kARRIE2 ON 
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[emiNEm]
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[dr. dRE]
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[eMiNEm]
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ju5T rEmem8ER hoW Joo 5aId iT wheN jOo wa2 5PRaYiN IT 
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5o WHo JOO plAyIN wIT HUH HUH huh hUh?

[Dr. DrE]
WAtCH JOor PhUxorin' moUtH 

[Tim8ALaND]
jO tHi2 tiM8aLaND, teLL HiM I 5aiD 5uXOr [tChkA] my DiCk

ON 3/29/06 N3TD3V <N3TD3V@...LECOM>!!!1 OMG WTF WROT3
>
> THIRD PARTY PATCHES A MATER OF TRUST BY N3TD3V
>
> Y R THIRD PARTY PATCH3S A BAD THNG
>??!!?? OMG LOL
> THEY FORCA MICROSOFT 2 RUSH OUT A PATCH BFORE
> QA1!1111 WTF T3STNG HAS BEN FULY COMPLETED IN TEH TIEM SCAEL
> MICROSOFT WUD HAEV INITIALY HOPED 
>111! OMG
>
> IS IT RESPONSIBLE FOR EYE 2 RALEAES A THIRD PARTY PATCH BFORA MICROSOFT
>?!?!!
> NO ITS VERY BAD B/C IT CONFUSAS DA CONSUMAR AND BRNGS UP DA ISUA OF
> TRUST
> IN TEH MIND OF DA CONSUMER!11!!! OMG WTF LOL ONCE U START DANGLNG MULTIPL3 VULNARABILITY 
> FIEXS INFRONT OF
> CONSUMAR IT OPENS TEH DOR FOR MALICIOUS HAKERS SCRIPT KIDS AND PHISHERS
> 2 COMPROMIES
> SACURITY
>!!11!! WTF LOL
> WUT DO U M3AN IRESPONSIBLE
>?!!??!? OMG WTF LOL 
> YAS B/C DA DELIEVRY OF A THIRD PARTY PATCH CANOT REACH A WORLD WIED
> AUDEINC3 IF TEH
> NAWS OF THIRD PARTY PATCH AVAAEBILITY IS ONLY ON TAHT OF U-S BAESD NEWS
> MEDIA OUTLATS
>!1!!1!1! OMG WTF 
> MICROSOFT SINCE SERVIEC PAK TWO HAEV AU2MATIC UPDAET FUNCTIONALITY ON ITS
> SOFTWAER ALOWNG
> A PATCH 2 B DALIEVR3D ESANTIALY 2 AL OF ITS CUS2M3RS WORLD WIED EY3
> JUST DONT HAEV TAHT KIND OF R3ACH AVALEABLE 2 THAM!1111!11 
>
> HOW CUD A THIRD PARTY PATCH B US3D AGANEST PAOPLA
>??!?? OMG WTF LOL
> SCRIPT KIDS COMPROMIES SYSTEMS AND TH3N PATCH THAM WIT TEH THIRD PARTY
> PATCH
>!!!1!1
> IF TEH TR3ND OF THIRD PARTY PATCHES CONTINUE MALICIOUS USERS CAN PLAY UP2 
> TEH MULTIPLA PATCH SOURCAS AVALEABL3 AND S3TUP FRAUD SCMS 2 COMPROMIES A
> US3R SYST3M WIT BOGUS PATCHES WHICH HAEV INSERT3D MALICIOUS CODE!!!!111! WTF LOL A LOT OF
> TEH TIEM DA MALICIOUS COD3 WIL HAEV ADITIONAL VULN3RABILITEIS ATACH3D 
>1111! OMG LOL DA THIRD PARTY PATCH MERALY ACTS AS A D3LIEVR SYST3M 2
SOCIALY ANGIENER
> TEH MIND OF DA CONSUMAR1!!11!! OMG ONC3 DA CONSUMER GETS TEH IEDA OF PATCHES BNG
> AVALEABL3 FROM MULTIPLE SOURC3S TH3N TAHTS WHERE TEH PROBLAMS WIL SPIRAL 
> OUT OF CONTROL AND TAHT ALEM3NT OF TRUST RILLY COMES IN2 PLAY111!11! OMG WTF
>
> SHUD MICROSOFT TAEK LAGAL ACTION AGANEST THIRD PARTY PATCH DEVELOPERS LIEK
> EYA
>???!??!!
> YAS I THINK SO!!11!1 OMG LOL DA IEDA OF THRID PARTY PATCHES BNG R3L3AESD BY BIG 
> COMPANEIS LIEK EY3 IS VERY IR3SPONSIBL3 AND OFARS A GRAEV DANGER 2 THE
> PUBLIC AT LARGA BY MAKNG TEH PATCH AVALEABL3 2 TEH WORLDS MALICIOUS
> USARS WHERE THEN TEH MAGNITUDE OF TEH SITUATION IS BLOWN UP AND MAEKS TH3 
> SITUATION MORA INTENSE B/C FIEXS R BNG MAED AVALEABL3 FOR 0-DAY
> BFORA MICROSOFT HAS HAD DA CHANCE 2 FULY DEV3LOP A S3CURE RAALIBL3 PATCH
> AND DELIEVR IT 2 WORLD WIED CUS2MARS!!1!! WTF LOL
>
> SHUD MICORSOFT R3L3AES A PATCH FOR CRITICAL PUBLIC 0-DAY BFOR3 PATCH
> TUASDAY
>???!!? OMG WTF
> YES AND NO!!1!11 WTF LOL NO IF IT WASNT FOR EYA COMPROMISNG SECURITY BY FORCNG
> MICROSOFT 2 PUSH OUT A PATCH BFORE 
> TEH REQUIERD TIEM FRME THAN THEIR WUD B NO NED 2 RALEAES A PATCH
> EARLY!!!1! OMG LOL YES B/C SINCE TEH WMF FLAW THIRD PARTY DAVALOPERS R REL3ASNG
> PATCHES AND MICROSOFT MUST GET ON2P OF TEH TREND BFORE CONSUMERS START 2 
> TRUST THIRD PARTY SOURCAS IN PLAEC OF TEH LEGITIMAET MICRSOFT PATCH11!!!1 OMG WTF LOL
>
> WUT CAN CONSUM3RS DO 2 PROT3CT TH3MS3LVES FROM THIRD PARTY PATCHES
>?!???! LOL
> NEVER DOWNLOAD A THIRD PARTY PATCH 3V3N IF ITS FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE 
>1!!! WTF REAL PATCH3S WIL ONLY 3VER COM3 FROM MICROSOFT AND TEH AU2MATIC UPDAET
> FUNCTIONALEITY ON MICROSOFT PRODUCTS!!!! OMG WTF REMEMBR MICROSOFT CAN OFAR U SUPORT IF THEYRE PATCH BCOM3S FAULTY!!!!! WTF IF U DOWNLOAD FROM A THIRD PARTY 
> SOURC3 UR SYSTAM MAY BCOM3 CORUPT WIT ARORS OR IN TEH WORST CAES
> SCANARIO U MAY B VICTIM 2 A MALICIOUS PATCH CLMNG 2 FIX A
> VULNARABILITY!11! WTF
>
> SHUD DA INDUSTRY G3T BHIND DA IEDA OF MAKNG THIRD PARTY PATCH3S AN 
> UNACEPTABLA ALTARNATIEV 2 A MICROSOFT PATCH
>?!??!??!! WTF LOL Y3S111!1 OMG WTF DA FUTURE OF SECURITY WORLD WIED
DAPENDS ON TEH INDUSTRY NOT
> R3COMANDNG THASE PATCH3S NO MATER HOW SAEF DA PATCH MAY APEAR OR IF 
> TEH SOURCE CAN B TRUSTED!1!!!!11 WTF TEH ONLY R3AL PATCH CAN B OFARED BY MICROSOFT
> AND DA ONLY PEOPL3 WHO RILLY DO KNOW HOW 2 FIX A VULN3RABILITY IS
> MICROSOFT1!!!!! WTF LOL WIT DA WMF FLAW MANY FOLKS WARE SHOKED 2 SE SANS 3TC 
> R3COM3NDNG A THIRD PARTY PATCH1!!1111! LOL THIS TIEM AROUND IT SEMS 2 B DIFAR3NT
>1!!11111 OMG WTF LOL TEH BIG PLAEYRS R FINALY LISTENNG 2 FOLKS LIEK
N3TD3V AND TEH GRAEV
> DANGARS ATACHED 2 MAKNG DA TREND OF THIRD PARTY PATCH3S FOR MICROSOFT 
> PRODUCTS A BAD PRATIEC WHCIH SHUDNT B ENCOURAEGD UNDAR ANY CIRCUMSTANCA
>11!1 OMG LOL SUR3 ITS HAALTHY 2 DEVALOP UR OWN PATCH SOLUTIONS IN
PRIVAET FOR UR OWN R3SEARCH AND DAV3LOPM3NT BUT AS SON AS U OFER TAHT 
PATCH 2 TH3
> WILD THAN ITS SUR3LY GONG 2 B PIKAD UP BY MALICIOUS US3RS AND USED
> AGANEST TEH CONSUM3R TAN TIEMS OVER BFOR3 L3GITIMAET USERS CAN SE OR H3AR
> OF UR THIRD PARTY PATCH1111! OMG WTF LOL 
>
>
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