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Date: Fri Mar 31 13:04:28 2006
From: Ed at unityitservices.co.uk (Edward Pearson)
Subject: (no subject)

n3td3v,
its not that we doubt that you're one of the best hackers in the ENTIRE
world, nor do we doubt that your list is the finest around. its just
that we dont care. will you please just get off the fucking list.

Ed

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From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
Sent: 31 March 2006 00:11
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] (no subject)

Funny you should think FD isn't already moderated, our main
xploitable@...il.com address has been moderated for months, hence the
reason we're using n3td3v@...il.com . This might be an interesting read
for you "freedom of speech" Americans, who are currently bombing the
hell out of the middle east to uphold, yet on FD, there is no democracy
and freedom of expression... 
http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/34e8f243bbdda
f3e/ac7e9f73de66f10f 

http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/64a322968d71f
e3b/d3db5e88d9f91d88 

http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/msg/5b3d7afe80dde4d3

Someone tell George W Bush to drop a bomb on John Cartwright's head,
since he doesn't believe in "freedom", he must be a terrorist.... ;-)

We ask John Cartwright to unmoderate xploitable@...il.com or you must be
with the terrorists... and if you don't then someone might need to tell
president@...tehouse.gov and then you might get mentioned on his press
conferences or radio addresses as being part of the "axis of evil".

On 3/30/06, Anders B Jansson <hdw@...listi.se> wrote: 

	Stan Bubrouski wrote:
	> Name one powerful hacker kicked out of here?  Just one.  And
you don't
	> count (niether do I but I've never claimed to be an expert or 
	> important).
	Kicked from a public un-moderated mailing list?

	How?

	Now, if you don't like the noise, why don't you just shut the
fuck up instead of answering the trolls?

	The noise isn't the idiot mailings, the noise is people who
should know better answering the morons. 

	_don't answer morons_ it serves no porpose.

	If someone posts something that is misguided or bad, then sure
correct me (or us).
	But if someone posts something moronic, then please ignore.
	You're only helping the moron. 

	I again refrain to the best proverb I've heard (and he's windows
guru, shudder)

	"Don't argue with an idiot, he'll just drag the discussion to
his level and beat you with experience."

	So, if someone post something silly or moronic, giggle, groan
and delete. 
	Do _not_ respond to prove that he (or remotely possibly she) is
a moron,
	If we haven't got that already we have ourself to blame.

	Oh, and of course, this is for 'us', boring grayhats who want to
read a clean list of the latest expliots every morning. 

	Non-grayhats who want to annoy us are of course free to do so,
after all, it is un-moderated and it's full-disclosure.

	So configure your frikken filters and stop responsing to idiots.

	// hdw

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