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Message-ID: <3a166c090604151918o41e20786o2d4065c3b6f6ea89@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun Apr 16 03:18:29 2006
From: n3td3v at gmail.com (n3td3v)
Subject: [funsec] fuzzing mailing list

On 4/15/06, nocfed <nocfed@...il.com> wrote:
> Thanks for spamming your own list.  Glad to see that you are following
> the spammers dream.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

Can it be spam if its informative and on topic.

Can it be spam if its not inserted into a signature.

Spam to me is when an identical peice of information is sent more than once.

Spam to me includes URLs inserted into sigatures.

Full-Disclosure allows Secunia to spam FD.

In return for this spam, we are allowed to use their mailing list.

Although, we aren't given the choice if we want Secunia spammed in the footer.

It is a very smart way for Secunia to advertise. I wonder how much
they paid to be able to spam everyone on FD.

Or are we talking about free unsolicited spam?

Just because Secunia are a partner of FD, doesnt mean the footer URL
isn't unsolicited.

If the Secunia URL can be classed as unsolicited spam, then surely its
as illegal as any other spam.

Maybe in the future companies will choose to sponsor mailing lists for
a socially acceptable way to spam, without facing criminal charges.

Just wait, SecurityFocus's Bugtraq will have a penis enlargement URL
in the footer of their message, saying they sponsor the Bugtraq
mailing list. Or perhaps more likely, some Symantec spam, tell us
about their security center software or anti-virus software. Infact,
i'm suprised the trend of spammers, sponsoring mailing lists to get
away with spamming isn't yet common place. However, when spamming
becomes more illegal, you can be sure the trend of spammers sponsoring
mailing lists will really take off, and they'll of course be court
case free, and left to spam their way to hell and back, and get away
with it.

If any company wants to sponsor the n3td3v mailing list and give me
money for it, i'll gladly add your url to the footer of every message.
I won't even charge you per url impression. I'll give you legal spam
rights for a whole year, for a fixed price.

The same applies for any script kids who want to advertise their site
on my mailing list footer.

Make an unrefuseable offer to me, and the legal way to spam will be
all yours. Theres currently 800+ folks you can reach on my list, so
its worth every cent.

Please make offers off list, thanks, n3td3v.