full-disclosure - **LosseChange::Debunk it??**

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Message-ID: <8824FC7BFD60C14C8FBC279421C2AC7A024F6400@GEMINI.EUROPE.CLEARSWIFT.COM>
Date: Wed May 17 19:48:01 2006
From: Pete.Simpson at clearswift.com (Pete Simpson)
Subject: **LosseChange::Debunk it??**

It is clear either that you have not the slightest understanding of what
I am trying to explain to you or you are a vindictive liar. Either way I
way I am tired of this fruitless conversation.  Goodbye.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Paul
Schmehl
Sent: 17 May 2006 19:27
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] **LosseChange::Debunk it??**

Pete Simpson wrote:
> You have confirmed that the data are correct, you have no way to 
> attack the principles, so where is the logical error? Be very precise.
>
Pete, are you even reading what I wrote?  A building the size of the
twin towers would fall to the ground in under 10 seconds, per the
standard calculations that, as you say, any high school student would
know.

How much more precise do I need to be?  Your calculations are incorrect
by an order of ten.  Instead of 90+ seconds, the answer is 9.0+ - IOW,
precisely the same amount of time it took for the buildings to actually
fall.

Furthermore, you have a logical fallacy in your argument, because you
are insisting that a controlled demolition collapse would be faster than
an accidental collapse.  Which part of the equation tells you that? 
Objects faill at 32 feet per second per second.  The *cause* of the fall
is irrelevant.

Now, you're obviously wedded to this believe of yours that the
government conspired to collapse the buildings.  Why is irrelevant.  But
until you can deal with the facts staring you in the face, there isn't
much point in continuing this discussion.

BTW, there's no need to cc me on your posts.  I can read the list just
fine.

--
Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
las.edu/ir/security/

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