full-disclosure - scanning

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Message-ID: <f0f2813e0606012226n38430785y4389b32ac3584289@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri Jun  2 06:26:13 2006
From: danzigfour at gmail.com (Nightfall Nightfall)
Subject: scanning

On 6/2/06, Simon Smith <simon@...soft.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>     It is not illegal to port-scan a target IP with or without
> authorization. It would be impossible to prosecute someone because they
> portscanned you. Hell, it would be near impossible to prosecute someone
> who ran nessus against you but never penetrated your systems. From
> expereince, the FBI only takes interest in crimes that cause roughly
> $50,000.00 in damage or more. If you are below that mark or if they are
> too busy... you won't get jack unless you pay for it.
>
>
>
> David Alanis wrote:
> >> Depends on the Jurisdiction... However If I found out that it was my
> >> site, I'd have to debate on whether or not to sue your ass... But that's
> >> just me...
> >>
> >
> > You would not sue anyone. Thats just saying that you would sue anyone under the sun trying to ping or go after some bot trying to scan your Apache box for IIS 5 vulnerabilities. My point is, even if you did realize someone was actively scanning your host, there would be nothing you could do, I think it would be too time consuming. Yet your question still stands. Is it legal or illegal?
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
> >> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> >> Nightfall Nightfall
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:54 PM
> >> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> >> Subject: [Full-disclosure] scanning
> >>
> >>
> >> Is it illegal if I perform a vulnerability scan on a site without
> >> permission from the owner? How about a simple port scan? thanks..
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein
> >
> > "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!"
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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> >
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> _______________________________________________
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>
I brought up this topic coz of these incident
-http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/tridel-settles-with-inq7net-on-vulnerability-test-suit
.
I was wondering if they were justified in suing the perpetrator who
did the vulnerability scan on their network.