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Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20060806034001.05116eb0@mail.mindtheater.net> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 03:43:06 -0400 From: Nancy Kramer <nekramer@...dtheater.net> To: The Shadow <shadow@...k-guy.com>,Dan B <dan-fd@...ox.org>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Cc: Subject: Re: ProtectFly/RegisterFly - Whoisinformation - Non-Disclosure legal?? I agree. Everytime I want to build a site I have a terrible time finding a good name that is not taken. All the best names are taken and parked with junk on them or even worse spyware. Often "business" people do ruin what they touch especially when they just want to take the money and run and don't get whatever one is really trying to do. That is actually very common among venture capitalists and other investor types. Regards, Nancy Kramer Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web . At 09:58 AM 8/5/2006, The Shadow wrote: >yeah. This is legal. But it does suck. The new wave is domain cashparking. >It sucks because people are just gobbling domains just to gobble when they >could be used for real content. Sux. What a waste of internet. Of course >commercial sector ruins everything it touches in the name of money. Oh >well..... > >www.Geek-Guy.com >The Original Geek Toy Store >-----Original Message----- > >From: Nancy Kramer <nekramer@...dtheater.net> >Subj: Re: [Full-disclosure] ProtectFly/RegisterFly - Whoisinformation - >Non-Disclosure legal?? >Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 2:56 pm >Size: 4K >To: Dan B <dan-fd@...ox.org>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk > >Yes having a "private" registration is legal at least in the US. Godaddy >also does it. They charge extra for it. > >People do this so spam bots will not harvest their email on their domain >registration. I personally don't think it is a good idea unless someone >wants to do something wrong with the domain but that is just my opinion. > >If the people who own those domains are doing something wrong like spamming >your blog I think you can contact the registrar and tell them. They should >either give you the contact information or do something about the domain >owner themselves. I know Godaddy would probably be helpful because they >are a pretty good company but don't know about these companies since I >don't deal with them myself. > >Regards, > >Nancy Kramer >Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com >Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars >One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web > > > > At 09:21 AM 8/4/2006, Dan B wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I recently noticed some spam comments to my blog. Upon looking at the > >link they were linking back to it is an aggregation of various people > >RSS from their blogs. > > > >Upon examining the domains and their whois info they all appear to be > >registered with ProtectFly. Their whois information does not give out > >the contact details of the domain owner. Some random looking email > >address, that I guess might forward back to the real owner. > > > >Is this non-disclosure of the contact details legal? > > > >Am I missing some method to find the correct info? > > > >Example:- > >dan@...ox ~ $ whois nags-head-real-estate.info > >Domain ID:D13743171-LRMS > >Domain Name:NAGS-HEAD-REAL-ESTATE.INFO > >Created On:10-Jun-2006 02:42:27 UTC > >Last Updated On:22-Jun-2006 07:15:54 UTC > >Expiration Date:10-Jun-2007 02:42:27 UTC > >Sponsoring Registrar:RegisterFly.com, Inc. (R318-LRMS) > >Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED > >Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED > >Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED > >Registrant ID:tuxfIgCP2SraElSj > >Registrant Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com > >Registrant Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-R# 37871268 > >Registrant Street1:404 Main Street > >Registrant Street2:4th Floor > >Registrant Street3: > >Registrant City:Boonton > >Registrant State/Province:NJ > >Registrant Postal Code:07005 > >Registrant Country:US > >Registrant Phone:+1.9737362545 > >Registrant Phone Ext.: > >Registrant FAX:+1.9737361355 > >Registrant FAX Ext.: > >Registrant Email:aqjsh4n3a1mmpj@...tectfly.com > >Admin ID:tu0yrgMvIcEJ2aIH > >Admin Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com > >Admin Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-A# 37871268 > >Admin Street1:404 Main Street > >Admin Street2:4th Floor > >Admin Street3: > >Admin City:Boonton > >Admin State/Province:NJ > >Admin Postal Code:07005 > >Admin Country:US > >Admin Phone:+1.9737362545 > >Admin Phone Ext.: > >Admin FAX:+1.9737361355 > >Admin FAX Ext.: > >Admin Email:mtvtn1jvnyuvt7n@...tectfly.com > >Billing ID:tuI0AzeEf97LKzMo > >Billing Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com > >Billing Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-B# 37871268 > >Billing Street1:404 Main Street > >Billing Street2:4th Floor > >Billing Street3: > >Billing City:Boonton > >Billing State/Province:NJ > >Billing Postal Code:07005 > >Billing Country:US > >Billing Phone:+1.9737362545 > >Billing Phone Ext.: > >Billing FAX:+1.9737361355 > >Billing FAX Ext.: > >Billing Email:huhq9jxz768h5qk@...tectfly.com > >Tech ID:tuTOQTTrtOUs5GAS > >Tech Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com > >Tech Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-T# 37871268 > >Tech Street1:404 Main Street > >Tech Street2:4th Floor > >Tech Street3: > >Tech City:Boonton > >Tech State/Province:NJ > >Tech Postal Code:07005 > >Tech Country:US > >Tech Phone:+1.9737362545 > >Tech Phone Ext.: > >Tech FAX:+1.9737361355 > >Tech FAX Ext.: > >Tech Email:xqm1q54xyttnax@...tectfly.com > >Name Server:DNS1.REGISTERFLY.COM > >Name Server:DNS2.REGISTERFLY.COM > > > > > >Cheers, > >DanB. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 > > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >--- message truncated --- > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/409 - Release Date: 8/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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