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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:11:18 -0400
From: bkfsec <bkfsec@....lonestar.org>
To: Throwaway1@...umbus.rr.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: RE: OT - Check this out - Full disclosure is
	apt	for this

Throwaway1@...umbus.rr.com wrote:

>====================================
>  
>
>>If you consider that America are 
>>able to lie about the weapons of mass
>>destruction and then admit it, 
>>    
>>
>====================================
>"America" never lied about WMD.
>America is not in a position to prove that any WMD stockpiles
>existed past December of 1998, when Saddam kicked out the UN; but 
>at worst that makes them wrong, not liars.
>
>  
>
You're right, America never lied about WMD.  Our neo-fascist 
administration did.  Argue against that to your own peril.  It's pretty 
well documented at this point and others of a more recognized and 
respected ilk have made the case better than I ever could...

>
>=====================================
>  
>
>>use chemical weapons in Iraq and lie
>>about it and then admit it
>>    
>>
>=====================================
>America did not use Nerve Agents or Blister Agents in Iraq.
>Nerve Agents and Blister Agents are "Chemical Waepons".
>Smoke Generators and tear gas are not. Unless of course you are
>seeking to redefine the word to fit a political agenda.
>
>  
>
Technicality: perhaps not in the military, but many doctors and chemists 
consider tear gas to be a nerve agent as it does have some of the 
effects of nerve agents, just not the extreme effects we think about 
when we think about chemical weapon WMDs.  But there are many cases 
where exposure to tear gas has caused long-lasting, sometimes lifelong, 
effects on the nervous system.

I think you two are using different definitions for Chemical Weapons, 
perhaps.

             -bkfsec


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