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Message-ID: <380-22006921221575968@M2W028.mail2web.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:57:05 -0400
From: "Throwaway1@...umbus.rr.com" <Throwaway1@...umbus.rr.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: RE: OT - Check this out - Full disclosure is apt
	for this

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem@...lim.com>
To: "Throwaway1@...umbus.rr.com" 

Very funny, but humor belongs on 
alt.rec.humor, not here.

RGDS
GARY
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It's not a joke Gary.
If you are attempting to make the claim that Saddam NEVER had WMD you are
either Profoundly Misinformed, Astonishingly Ignorant of Late 20th Century
History; or simply Lying.

In 2002, the United Nations said to Saddam: 
"Hey, Saddam... Buddy...  You know those WMD you had in December of 1998
when you kicked our inspectors out? Yeah, uh... What happened to those?"

Saddam replied:
"Oh those? Yeah, uh... I destroyed them. Yeah, that's the ticket! I
destroyed them."

We never did find the stockpiles we were looking for. The closest we came
was a shitload of bunkers filled with nerve agents that were still in their
unmixed binary form; and some bio-warfare reference strains. Oh yeah... And
a whole fuckload of OTHER banned weapons that were not of an N.B.C. nature. 

But no Bioweapon or Final-Stage Chemical weapon stockpiles. Didn't find
'em. Maybe never will.

So that means that either damn near every major intelligence agency in the
world was wrong at the SAME TIME, or Saddam did a better job of hidin' 'em
than we did of lookin' for 'em.

Now I realize that there are a lot of people who don't like GWB. That's
fine with me. Not my problem. What IS my problem is those same people
sacrificing LOGIC and COMMON SENSE on the alter of their rage at Bush and
as a result perpetuating a completely false history of the past 5-6 years. 

As a result, we end up idiocy like the fake Ranger that c0ntex was
trumpeting all over the list because he simply didn't know any better; or
morons who go around whining about a 9/11 plot allegedly committed in
complete secrecy by some cabal within a government that hasn't managed to
keep a single goddamned secret for over 200 years.

Anyone in the info-security business that actually buys into that kind of
nonsense should be ashamed of themselves and furthermore; probably
shouldn't be IN this business.

I don't have a problem with people attacking GWB. He's made plenty of
mistakes on a wide variety of issues and he SHOULD be criticized for them.

But anyone who FIRST decides what they want to believe and THEN tries to
find supporting evidence for it is an IDIOT. People who are NOT idiots do
it the other way around: Evidence First, Conclusion Second.

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