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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:44:50 -0700
From: "Shawn Merdinger" <shawnmer@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: FiWin SS28S WiFi VoIP SIP/Skype Phone
	Hardcoded Telnet user/pass and debug access

Hi,

> Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > The engineers who designed this should be summarily fired.  The terminal
> > stupidity of it is mind boggling!

Nick FitzGerald <nick@...us-l.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I think _beyond_ mind-boggling.

Your spirited comments are fun to read, but I personally don't find
these types of vulnerabilities all that surprising.  There's a rich
history of extraneous ports, services, debugging, backdoors, hardcoded
credentials, etc. etc. across all types of products from all types of
vendors, from the well-established "Makin' Boat Payments Big Boys" to
"Fly-By-Night, Inc."

Also, most all of the 802.11b/g VoIP Wireless phones released in the
past year or so have these type of simplistic security issues which
should've been caught way back in QA.  Btw, back in 2004, Network
World did a basic wired-side analysis of 15 access points and found
these exact same issues, see
http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2004/1004wirelesslockside.pdf

Realistically, I don't expect this situation to change, whether it's a
US $50,000 "enterprise-class, best-of-breed, blah, blah, blah" or a US
$50 "home network" box....or as one funny, insightful security
engineer I worked with put it years ago -- "It's all the same.  Nobody
cares."

Thanks!
--scm

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