Message-ID: <1FA45C2E5F2E4B46967415DA3A804FE8812232@mail.greenborder.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:39:33 -0700
From: "Bill Stout" <bill.stout@...enborder.com>
To: "Gadi Evron" <ge@...uxbox.org>,
	<bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Cc: botnets@...testar.linuxbox.org, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Yet another 0day for IE (Disabling Javascript
	no longer a fix)

http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/seen-in-wild-zero-day-exploit-be
ing.html 
"This exploit can be mitigated by turning off Javascripting. 

Update: Turning off Javascripting is no longer a valid mitigation. A
valid mitigation is unregistering the VML dll. "

Bill Stout

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Bill
Stout
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:11 AM
To: Gadi Evron; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc: botnets@...testar.linuxbox.org; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Yet another 0day for IE

Hi all,

If anyone finds a site where the 0day still lives, please let me know.
All the URLs I've found are off the air.

I did find a websense update not listed here:
http://www.websense.com/securitylabs/alerts/alert.php?AlertID=632   

There's another websense blog says the code has been posted (where?):
http://www.websense.com/securitylabs/blog/blog.php?BlogID=81
 
If you're intentionally digging in the Internet muck for this Trojan
(like I am), now is a good time to put our gloves around your browser.

http://www.download.com/GreenBorder-Pro-with-SafeFiles/3000-2092_4-10581
692.html (Wraps IE, FF, and other apps)

Here's the Microsoft Advisory:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/925568.mspx 

Securiteam has a blog on this as well
http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/624 
Many companies (e.g. software development) have users running as local
admins.  To quote from Securiteam:
"Also worth mentioning is that the current in-the-wild exploits attempt
system-wide software installations, as do most zero-day exploits for
such vulnerabilities. If your browser is not running under an account
with administrative privileges, this will not succeed."

Thanks,
Bill Stout

My opinions are my own, and my keyboard is often accompanied by glass of
wine or whiskey.


-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Gadi
Evron
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:47 PM
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc: botnets@...testar.linuxbox.org; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Yet another 0day for IE

Webattacker is a hacker kit for preparing a website to exploit users,
infecting them. It has statistics on OS, browser type, etc. As well as
on
how many got infected by what exploit, etc.

Nick FitzGerald, Roger Thompson and now Dan Hubbard
(http://www.websense.com/securitylabs/blog/blog.php?BlogID=80) report
that sites seen exploiting this 0day in-the-wild have previously been
seen utilizing Webattacker. If Webattacker indeed uses this 0day... it
will be spread far and wide.

No patch in sight. Easy to exploit.

	Gadi.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:

> Sunbelt Software released a warning on a new IE 0day they detected
> in-the-wild, to quote them:
> "The exploit uses a bug in VML in Internet Explorer to overflow a
buffer
> and inject shellcode.   It is currently on and off again at a number
of
> sites. 
> Security researchers at Microsoft have been informed. This story is
> developing and research is ongoing.   Security professionals can
contact
> me for collaboration or further information. This exploit can be
mitigated
> by turning off Javascripting."
> 
> They also notified some closed and vetted security information sharing
> groups on the matter, with further details. You can find their blog
entry
> here:
>
http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/seen-in-wild-zero-day-exploit-be
ing.html
> 
> That's that.
> 
> Why do I call it a 0day? Because it has indeed been used in-the-wild
> before it was publicly discovered. People are CURRENTLY and for a
while
> now, being exploited.
> 
> Lately we call every exploit being released in full disclosure mode a
> 0day. That's a 1-day or at least it has to be from now on, as there
are
> just too many of those and there are more to come.
> 
> This trend started with Websense detecting an IE 0day (not really IE
> - WMF) used in-the-wild by spyware, to infect users.
> "Responsible disclosure" is important, but when it takes so long to
get a
> response or a fix with "Irresponsible vendors", and with so much money
to
> be made by not disclosing vulnerabilities at all - it is becoming
> passe. New exploits don't need to be gleamed from patches or feared in
> full disclosure. Someone just pays for a 0day.. it's their business
and
> they invest in it.
> 
> So:
> 1. Lots more coming.
> 2. Please call it a 1-day if it's full disclosure mode, and 0day if it
> has been seen in-the-wild.
> 
> The motivation has now moved from "let's be responsible" or "let's
have
> fun" to "let's make money" or "let's stop waiting and be mocked by
> irresponsible vendors". This is not about everybody, it's about how
things are.
> 
> Even idefense and zdi can't pay enough when compared with people who
make
> money from what the 0day gives them - exploited users and a money
making
> botnet.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Gadi.
> 
> 

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