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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:12:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Pavel Kankovsky <peak@...o.troja.mff.cuni.cz> To: "Kenneth F. Belva" <ken@...security.com> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: Could InfoSec be Worse than Death? On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Kenneth F. Belva wrote: > iTunes, Unbox, Speedpass/Easypass/Paypass. Do these not create cash flows? > Could they create cash flows (or even exist) if the security mechanisms > (DRM/authentication) were not present? When you mention it... How does clandestine installation of "DRM-enabling" software (e.g. the infamous Sony rootkit) fit into your virtual trust model? They wanted to establish one trust relation (copyright holders can believe end users won't make illegal copies (*)) and subverted another trust relation (end users can't trust their computers anymore (**)). To be honest, I am afraid this is an intrinsic problem of so-called DRM. You cannot enforce DRM (by technical means) unless you take control over the device from its owner's hands and put it into the hands of some Big Brother. (*) Oh yes, they won't be able to make legal copies covered by fair use either but who cares about fair use? (**) Whether they could trust their computers before they inserted an infected CD into them is an interesting but different question. --Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ] "Resistance is futile. Open your source code and prepare for assimilation." _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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