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Message-ID: <20060930102655.41FD.0@paddy.troja.mff.cuni.cz>
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:12:29 +0200 (CEST)
From: Pavel Kankovsky <peak@...o.troja.mff.cuni.cz>
To: "Kenneth F. Belva" <ken@...security.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Could InfoSec be Worse than Death?

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Kenneth F. Belva wrote:

> iTunes, Unbox, Speedpass/Easypass/Paypass. Do these not create cash flows?
> Could they create cash flows (or even exist) if the security mechanisms
> (DRM/authentication) were not present?

When you mention it...

How does clandestine installation of "DRM-enabling" software (e.g. the 
infamous Sony rootkit) fit into your virtual trust model?

They wanted to establish one trust relation (copyright holders can believe
end users won't make illegal copies (*)) and subverted another trust
relation (end users can't trust their computers anymore (**)).

To be honest, I am afraid this is an intrinsic problem of so-called DRM.  
You cannot enforce DRM (by technical means) unless you take control over
the device from its owner's hands and put it into the hands of some Big 
Brother.

(*) Oh yes, they won't be able to make legal copies covered by fair use 
either but who cares about fair use?

(**) Whether they could trust their computers before they inserted an
infected CD into them is an interesting but different question.

--Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak  [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ]
"Resistance is futile. Open your source code and prepare for assimilation."

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