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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:09:03 +0800 From: "Alice Bryson <abryson@...efocus.com>" <abryson@...efocus.com> To: "Gadi Evron" <ge@...uxbox.org> Cc: funsec@...uxbox.org, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, "Dr. Neal Krawetz" <hf@...kerfactor.com>, Fergie <fergdawg@...zero.net> Subject: Re: [funsec] Who is n3td3v? It's OK anybody start vulnerability research from script(php or perl), but it's not good for someone to stay at "script kid" level, huh? ----- mailto:clt@...g-labs.com http://www.wang-labs.com 2006/10/21, Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>: > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Dr. Neal Krawetz wrote: > > On Fri Oct 20 15:49:53 2006, Gadi Evron wrote: > > > > > > Cool article, but n3td3v is not gobbles. For one, easy analysis shows he > > > is English. > > > > > > Gadi. > > > > Thanks Gadi. > > > > However, I'm going to call you on this: > > 1. What "easy analysis" are you using? > > I listed my approaches. If you are using a different approach, I'd > > like to hear what it is. (I'm not trying to be argumentative -- I > > want to learn.) > > > > 2. You said, "n3td3v is not gobbles". > > Do you know for a fact that n3td3v is not Gobbles Security? > > Or is this an interpretation? > > If you know for a fact, then how do you know? > > > > On 1-Sep-2006, a new person controlling the n3td3v account appeared. > > He is likely English/Brit (based on the topics he posted). But I did not > > see enough text to analyze. > > The older n3td3v postings were by 3 people, not one person. > > (And primarily by three people -- a few postings were ambiguous and could > > indicate more people.) > > 1. He speaks Real English. > 2. He mentions UK currency. > 3. He said as much, speaking of UK issues. > 4. He gave his real name. > > Your analysis is amazing, and shows how these things should be done. But > misses that much. Gobbles was about fun, n3td3v took himself seriously > rather than just his goal of making the world a better place. > > Aside to that, yes, I know. But as I can't mention how, it's silly for me > to stick to anything but the above. > > >From the UK. Highly likely from the North of England or Scotland. > > Did you ever talk to n3td3v or ask him? Behind all that posted, he really > seems like a good guy with good intentions. > > Your analysis really is good, but it comes to no conclusions. I want to > advoid the "yes he is" "no he isn't" discussion that's to follow. View my > comments as "opinion". > > Why idolize people? > > Gadi. > > > > > -Neal > > Neal Krawetz, Ph.D. > > Hacker Factor Solutions > > http://www.hackerfactor.com/ > > Author of "Introduction to Network Security" (Charles River Media, 2006) > > http://www.charlesriver.com/Books/BookDetail.aspx?productID=126130 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- Have a Good Day _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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