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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:57:40 -0500
From: Michael Holstein <>
To: Thomas Holt <>
Subject: Re: Call For Participants For A Research Study
 Of	Hacker Culture

Wouldn't the best way to do this to be find a way to get friendly with 
the State's board of Probation & Parole? .. survey the folks that got 
caught so they can tell you about it.

Folks that haven't gotten caught are obviously not all that bright if 
they chat it up about their misdeeds.

That said .. I've had some interesting discussions with the botnet 
kiddies by reverse-engineering their malware and lurking in the 
appropriate IRC channel (just do it from a separate dialup connection, 
lest you get DDOS'ed).

Usually the "why" question is answered with a variation of "because I 
could.." or "boredom" or both.


Michael Holstein CISSP GCIA
Cleveland State University

PS: I hate to be the one to point this out, but nothing will protect 
your "confidential" research from a subpoena.

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