full-disclosure - Re: comparing information security to other industries

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Message-Id: 6.0.1.1.2.20061219191355.057f6eb0@mail.mindtheater.net
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:22:56 -0500
From: Nancy Kramer <nekramer@...dtheater.net>
To: "KT" <ktriv3di@....com>, <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	<websecurity@...appsec.org>
Subject: Re: comparing information security to other
	industries

At 03:16 PM 12/19/2006, KT wrote:
>What I am trying to figure out is how mature we are and how long will it 
>take for to get stable?

Not very mature and it will take a long time to get stable because 
programmers are just beginning to be aware of application security 
requirements and then they need to figure out how to implement 
them.  Remember most programmers came from a client server or mainframe 
world and they "don't get it".  The consumer also doesn't "get it".  They 
work great together.

I went to a PHP Conference recently and the creator of PHP said that there 
is not such thing as a completely secure web application.  When failure is 
a goal you will definitely get there.

I know all this because I am a programmer by background.  Most people 
designing web applications know so little about security it is scary.

Regards,

Nancy Kramer
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