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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:21:48 +0200
From: Timo Schoeler <timo.schoeler@...ce-dsl.net>
To: Red Leg <redleg18@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Hackers uniting against Iran?

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:47:35 -0400
Red Leg <redleg18@...il.com> wrote:

> On 4/5/07 5:08 PM, "Paul Szabo" <psz@...hs.usyd.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> > uberspritzer@....net wrote:

(...)

> While the USS Nimitz Carrier Battle Group is making haste to the
> Arabian Gulf (formerly known as the Persian Gulf), to help secure the
> sea lanes for the oil market (THE WEST PAYS A FAIR PRICE FOR THE
> COMMODITY) without which Europe's economy would be destroyed, I have
> to read this crap.
> 
> Look. The Europeans couldn't WAIT to get The U.S. into WWII. (BBC
> report of Winston Churchill: Defender of Democracy
> By Dr Geoffrey Best: "In foreign affairs, his greatest achievement
> was to engage the sympathy of the United States, without whose
> material help - and, better, military alliance - Britain, he well
> understood, had no chance of winning." Now, 60 years later, you want
> to pat us on the head and send us back home?

that's not true. when western countries (GB, USA) joined in WWII, the
battle was already won by the russian red army.

> What makes you think that the U.S. Would now believe you won't screw
> up again and cause a couple of million U.S. Military casualties when
> you "engage our sympathy" next time? Nope! The U.S. will continue be
> PROACTIVE - and that's whether the Democrats or Republicans are in
> power. And the U.S. does appreciate the wisdom of Tony Blair and John
> Howard to mention only 2 who are well aware of what it takes to keep
> the sea lanes safe for commerce. Also, thanks to the Royal Navy and
> Marines who are still patrolling the Iraq/Iran border sea lane.
> 
> So, if we STAY THE EFF on the security topic, then we will ALL be much
> happier. Oh, yes, the above IS security!

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