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Message-ID: <3367.1176866087@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:14:47 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: nick@...us-l.demon.co.uk
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: A Botted Fortune 500 a Day

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:25:15 +1200, Nick FitzGerald said:

> the same.  If more admins stood up to such "managerial incompetence" 
> things might actually change for the better, as like it or not, it _is_ 
> managerial incompetence that is the problem here, regardless of the 
> source of the problem being admin incompetence or policy override...

"I don't care if it's a good idea.  Do it or I'll find somebody for your
job that *will* do it".

You refuse, you get fired.  Pretty tough to make too much of a stand under
those conditions.

Yes, if enough admins did it, it *might* change for the better.  But in the
meantime, most sysadmins I've known just aren't the stuff martyrs are made of.

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