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Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:12:01 -0400
From: "J. Oquendo" <sil@...iltrated.net>
To: KJKHyperion <hackbunny@...tpj.org>, 
	full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linux big bang theory....

KJKHyperion wrote:
>
>
> why, Windows machines of course, I'm an attacker, not a fool! If you 
> were a terrorist, what would you rather do?
>
> Crash the Twin Towers
> Crash the dollar
>
> There is no such thing as an "attacker". All actions, even such an 
> individual's, are driven by economical considerations.
With this said, if I were an attacker with economics in mind
why would I want to target a machine which has X amount of
vendors sifting through the much of malware and viruses when
I could spawn off an semi undetectable program and KEEP IT
THERE without having to wait for the next best thing.

I don't know about your logics on economics, but if I were
the attacker and I was looking for a constant steady stream
of revenue, I would go the Linux route. And if you think
for a second that "Boohoo Linux users are more inclined to
be security conscious" then you are the fool here. Of the
couple of thousand of brute force bots I see, none are on
Windows.

Whatever though, to each their own mechanisms of thought.
If you truly believe its all fine and dandy and things
won't get progressively worse by giving Linux to
inexperienced users, you are in for a rude awakening. If
you haven't stopped to read the facts that malware, *ware
creators are getting more savvy, then you seem to be
stuck somewhere in a world of fantasy.



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