full-disclosure - Re: EXPLOITS FOR SALE (AUCTION SITE)

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Message-ID: <8f1f7b60707081422n70330af9y5a611ce716bfa138@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:22:50 -0400
From: "Peter Dawson" <slash.pd@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: EXPLOITS FOR SALE (AUCTION SITE)

On 7/8/07, Michal Zalewski <lcamtuf@...ne.ids.pl> wrote:
>
> [..]pretty much stands against *all* the core values of
> the hacker culture - a culture to which this field of research owes quite
> a bit.

Agreed, but values have changed.. thats why there are terms as white/black
and shades of gray all over !!

Yeah, it can be done. It might be legal by itself, too - though I'm sure
> the moment your code is used for malicious purposes (or simply against
> your government),

Oh yeah  you got that right-- ask the .gov stealth man who  wants to bid out
a contract to dev a hack which then can be used against another government
Now is that *core values*   ??? Following the money trail will always point
back to either a .gov or  large company. who eventually buy the 0day or
w/ever.. this is the nature of the world.. it spins around money.. and money
touches everything.

..and btw I am not talking about a virus/worm that some researcher dev'ed
and it gets into the wild - they normally just do it for fun and get their
hands slapped in the bargain.

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