full-disclosure - Re: Hash

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Message-ID: <1578275919-1185506175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1282559971-@bxe035.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:16:15 +0000
From: gjgowey@....blackberry.net
To: "Tremaine Lea" <tremaine@...il.com>,
	full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	"Peter Besenbruch" <prb@...a.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Hash

I've heard of grammar Nazi's lurking on lists, but now we have signature Nazi's too?  Haven't you all got something else better to do like finding an exploit or something rather than bicker over something that amounts to little more than a tag line?  Cripes, this has to be the stupidest argument/waste of time that I've seen in a while.

Geoff

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tremaine Lea <tremaine@...il.com>

Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:11:26 
To:Peter Besenbruch <prb@...a.net>
Cc:full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Hash

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On 26-Jul-07, at 8:52 PM, Peter Besenbruch wrote:

> Tremaine Lea wrote:
>> Sure, it's possible.  Possibly Sergio is lazy.  As he sent it via
>> gmail's auth smtp servers and not from webmail, it's just as possible
>> it happened in his mail client.
>
> And he still could have, and should have edited it.
>

I don't disagree.  It would appear he definitely had the choice since
it doesn't seem to have passed through a corporate mailserver that
enforces it outside his control.

>> And all of that aside, who cares?  We see signatures like that all
>> the time on mailing lists.  It's pretty obvious they're useless in
>> this context.
>
> Useless in any context. Sigs. like that are very unprofessional.
> Even if
> I know they are nonsense, such disclaimers come across as mildly
> bullying.
>
> --
> Hawaiian Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org
> HAS Deepsky Atlas: http://www.hawastsoc.org/deepsky

Useless, yes.  Unprofessional, also yes.  But no more so than the
long winded reply that followed it.  I'd actually argue that annoying
bit of easily ignored text was less intrusive than the reply from
Nick Fitzgerald.  I'm not sure about everyone else here, but those
legalese tags at the end of emails on lists register about as much as
the ads on webpages.  They don't.

- ---
Tremaine Lea
Network Security Consultant
Intrepid ACL
"Paranoia for hire"

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