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Message-Id: <20070727033249.D9F2322822@mailserver9.hushmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:32:49 -0400 From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele@...hmail.com> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,<nick@...us-l.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Hash Oh Nick, you're so dreamy! J On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:20:27 -0400 Nick FitzGerald <nick@...us- l.demon.co.uk> wrote: >shadown wrote: > >> Just some hashed for the record. >> >> CA eTrust (vulnpack): >> md5:919a7645a07aafb388af00e9b39d21bf >> sha-1:b21f31892fff9de9bd6933850a66587786896fa1 >> SHA- >256:66fd618e17bfe7db223f9547df15763d8246a49bbd6bbd7aee01964f2537bf8 >6 > >Cool -- thanks for that info... > >> -- >> Sergio Alvarez >> Security, Research & Development >> IT Security Consultant >> email: shadown@...il.com >> >> This message is confidential. ... > >Yet you wilfully and knowingly posted it to a public-access >mailing >list with tens of thousands of subscribers and that is well-known >to be >archived in many places across the net? > >You must be a prize moron... > >> ... It may also contain information that is >> privileged or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. ... > >...who can't afford a lawyer with half a clue, and will now never >be >able to meaningfully defend any kind of accidental Email-borne >"disclosure" of anything, as you've just admitted, on the public >record, that you are too stupid to tell if something is privileged >or >legally exempt from disclosure, THUS your only legally defensible >position regarding such material in future is to ensure that you >never >handle any of it, but as (by your own admission) you cannot tell >what >that it is, you must cut yourself off from all information, a >clearly >impossible task. In short, you've put yourself in the paradoxical > >position of being both knowingly and negligently responsible for >any >and all "improper" disclosures of any and all "sensitive" material >you >should ever happen across in future. > >Good luck ever getting hired again -- it would take a seriously >stupid >employer to take on such a liability as you! > >> ... If you have >> received it by mistake ... > >As you say it _is_ confidential and I have NO existing relevant >"relationship" with you, I MUST have received this by mistake.... > >> ... please let us know by e-mail ... > >...and I have a good faith belief that the mailing list software >will >deliver this is to you by Email, so I've fulfilled that part of >the >"deal". But what about the rest of the F-D subscribers? You'll >get a >_LOT_ of Email... > >> ...immediately ... > >Although I wrote this as quickly as I could and sent it >"immediately" >thereafter, I didn't read your message till several hours after >receiving it -- I hope that doesn't mean I didn't do it >"immediately"... > >> ... and >> delete it from your system; ... > >No. Why should I? Because _YOU_ are a moron and made a stupid >mistake? > >In case it's not already nice and clear, I'll try to make it even >clearer why this kind of "Email AUP" is _THOROUGHLY_ bogus. > >Imagine that I totally accidentally ran you over with my car BUT >THEN >told you that the terms and conditions of my having run you over >are >that you have to accept that I'm incompetent to judge whether I >should >drive or not [that's the earlier stuff], that you are to forget it >ever >happened [above]... > >> ... should also not copy the message nor >> disclose its contents to anyone. Many thanks. > >...and that you are never to tell anyone anything about the >accident. > >Do you think that would "protect" me in court if you actually had >the >temerity to sue me for damages or some such? > >Would any lawyer with at least two good brain cells (yes -- a very >rare >breed) sensibly take _my_ case? > > >Regards, > >Nick FitzGerald > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- HASH(0x8be3b7c) HASH(0x8be3b34) http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4eAFZQ91Ni2ZPpPTTRppZ4ayYE8t6xoGrU0iXlmTRrPpK6Nq/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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