full-disclosure - Re: bbc calls them hackers not security researchers

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Message-ID: <9f4995d60708091212m3a4b042ei91ff53b5375fa041@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:12:00 -0400
From: "Михал Потапыч" <toptiginmp@...il.com>
To: "HACK THE GOV" <hackthegov@...glemail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: bbc calls them hackers not security
	researchers

It's like evolution where the results depend on the environment.  Currently,
its inputs are "corporate america" and "hackers".  Result, "security
professional".  Let's see what the future will bring.

On 8/4/07, HACK THE GOV <hackthegov@...glemail.com> wrote:
>
> the bbc has the balls to call them hackers and not security
> researchers, its about time the security media journalists woke up and
> followed suit with the bbc.
>
> blackhat is a hacker conference, the folks releasing information aren't
> security researchers, they are hackers through and through.
>
> its people like securityfocus and cnet that try and give hackers
> legitimacy to release their information and tools by calling them
> security researchers.
>
> the security media need to get their wording correct in terms of
> describing these people, trust me they'll be a revolution one day.
>
> for years i have read news sites and cringed at how much hackers are
> given fancy titles like security and vulnerability researcher, kids
> lets get down to it here ok, just incase you aren't on top of it,
> these people are hackers.
>
> people like hd moore are elite hackers that the government are scared
> of, lets not dress them up with any other title, the security media
> seem to dress them up and soften them up for public consumption in
> news articles for the non security savvy joe average to read.
>
> the bbc should be hailed and get a standing ovation as the leading
> media news outlet in the world and should be a sign for others at
> securityfocus and cnet to take note of for future coverage of security
> current affairs.
>
> why are securityfocus and cnet lying to their readers about what and
> who these people are? they are hackers.
>
> we need to put the word hacker back where it belongs instead of
> letting the uneducated crowd continue to call crackers and script kids
> "hackers".
>
> you don't hear much of the word cracker and script kid in the media
> now do you, they are called cyber criminals or hi-tech criminals now.
> *lol*
>
> i guess going to blackhat and releasing tools for the cyber criminals
> to use isn't criminal in its self.
>
> like i said, they'll be a revolution one day.
>
> we don't even call them blackhats, even though they are at blackhat
> security conference, and what are whitehats doing giving talks at a
> blackhat hacker conference? oh its just a name, it doesn't mean
> anything, *lol*.
>
> link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6929258.stm
>
> team n3td3v
>
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