Message-ID: <46BC12D7.6000605@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:25:11 +0200
From: monikerd <monikerd@...il.com>
To: "cocoruder ." <frankruder@...mail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Security Advisory] Backdoor Discovered
 inImmunity Debugger

Why this is the decision problem all over again.
I wish all companies would give out the sourcecode
for us to check too ;)

There really is no need to suspect immunity any
more than another piece of software. The person
who sent the advisory is playing a trick on you.

However off course the md5 hashes don't really
say anything. Except that you would be able to
verify that your copy is the one you obtained.
and if it's "evil" you can complain to them and
whatever legal entity that represents "them"

I wish microsoft would go out of its way to prove
windows is not evil.

All this was a bit of FUD by a frustrated person,
of which there tend to be several on this list. If
he can't prove it. It didn't happen. Otherwise you
might just as well start helping all those poor Nigerians
than need a helping hand in transferring funds out of
the country.


cocoruder . wrote:
> This is a crisis of Immunity, if you want to let the geezers believe
> you should give more evidences not only MD5 hashes.
>
>
> welcome to my blog:
> http://ruder.cdut.net
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: goudatr0n <goudatr0n@...oo.ca>
>> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> Subject: [Full-disclosure] [Security Advisory] Backdoor Discovered 
> inImmunity Debugger
>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:58:01 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>> Infosec researchers with the Greater Alliance of PHP
>> Programmers, headed by goudatr0n and in cooperation
>> with David Marcus, have discovered a backdoor in the
>> new Immunity Debugger.
>>
>> 1. PRODUCTS AFFECTED
>> Immunity Debugger (Immunity Security,
>> http://www.immunitysec.com/products-immdbg.shtml), All
>> Versions
>>
>> 2. OVERVIEW
>> The Immunity Debugger contains a backdoor that emails
>> session history, running applications and other system
>> information (location, IP address, machine Owner Name)
>> to
>> an email address at immunitysec.com
>>
>> 3. ANALYSYS
>> Immunity Security provides a lightweight debugger for
>> Windows, presumably to aid in discovering 0-day
>> security vulnerabilities. The debugger is distributed
>> freely on
>> the immunitysec.com website, requiring the user to
>> register when they download it.
>>
>> Presumably, this debugger is intended to be used by
>> people searching for weaknesses in various proprietary
>> products, due to the unsafe nature of how they are
>> develope
>> d, where the source is not frequently audited. Since
>> David Aitel is an attention whore who only is rivaled
>> by Gadi Evron, and his lack of skills as evident,
>> Immunity
>> Security is only able to reveal 0-days by stealing
>> them from other hackers attempting to find them.
>>
>> The backdoor emails detailed system information, along
>> with detailed debugging session information. In one
>> such email that was intercepted, it was seen that the
>> entir
>> e session was attached, as well as the Owner Name,
>> external IP address, a list of running services and
>> their versions.
>>
>> 4. SOLUTION
>> Do not trust Immunity Security's debugger. They will
>> steal your 0-day and parade it around like they are
>> the ones who discovered it. This will only continue to
>> feed i
>> nto David Aitel's massive ego, compensating for his
>> tiny penis.
>>
>> BROUGHT TO YOU BY GOUDATR0N AND THE GREATER ALLIANCE
>> OF PHP PROGRAMMERS
>> DON'T BE DUMB
>> BE A SMARTY
>> COME AND JOIN
>> THE PISS PARTY
>>
>> goudatr0n can be found online at irc.perl.org #perl
>> using the nick TimToady.
>>
>>
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