full-disclosure - Re: What do you guys make of this?

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Message-ID: <46E08A4F.1090506@riscworks.net>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:16:31 +0100
From: Timo Schoeler <timo.schoeler@...cworks.net>
To: "Joel R. Helgeson" <joel@...geson.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: What do you guys make of this?

thus Joel R. Helgeson spake:

> There was a time in foreign policy where no country, no diplomat would make
> a foreign policy decision without first asking "what does Russia think of
> this?".

No. It was 'Soviet Union', not 'Russia'.

> Well, Russia is no longer a super power,

Well, actually, it is. It has thousands of nuclear warheads, it has more 
advanced fighter jets and bombers than the US, it has more advanced 
space technology and ICBMs, submarines, education & healthcare...

It has _plenty_ of ressources the US has to go to war for (natural gas, 
oil, etc).

> the fall from which left
> Putin feeling excluded. He's always wanted to get Russia back to superpower
> status, he wants his Mother Russia to be significant again.

Propaganda.

> For years, the Russian economy was cash strapped.

No. It suffered from a few people that stole what the people's was.

> Just recently Putin
> revamped the entire tax system and implemented a 12% flat tax. For the first
> time since the collapse, the tax revenues are POURING in. They now have
> enough gas to fuel a plane, and now they want to get back into being viewed
> as a superpower, to be 'feared', they desperately want to matter again, to
> be important.
> 
> So, they're acting out in an aggressive manner - using tried and true cold
> war era tactics.  It comes across to me as childish, throwing a fit just to
> get attention.

If _that_ is childish, what is the US's behaviour then? Oh, sorry, I 
forgot: Children usually don't rape, kill and spread war^H^H^Hdemocracy.

> It is not propaganda, Russia is just trying to say "We're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!
> And this time, we've got 31337 H4x0rz!"

Blah. Blahblah.

> Joel Helgeson
> 952-858-9111

9/11?

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