full-disclosure - n3td3v wins against pro us government hackaganda on securityfocus

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Message-ID: <67ea64530709141128n7e1bb5an21de1732cc89c53b@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:28:57 +0100
From: "worried security" <worriedsecurity@...glemail.com>
To: n3td3v@...glegroups.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: n3td3v wins against pro us government hackaganda
	on securityfocus

In a startling development, "hackthegov" otherwise known as "n3td3v" to the
security community has perhaps managed to pull off some political point
scoring between Symantec's Securityfocus editorial staff and the United
States government.
"hackthegov" on an unmoderated information security mailing list known as
Full-Disclosure said Symantec's Securityfocus website were biased and
wouldn't publish allegations of the United States government were involved
in hacking into China.

Securityfocus later caved in to "hackthegov" alias of "n3td3v" and ran an
anti US government article which claims US broke into China.

This move by Securityfocus is off track from the pro US government
hackaganda usually seen on the cyber security website.

Allegations that US broke into China comes after United States accused
China of breaking into The Pentagon.

Right now its word for word on both sides into who hacked who first and
when, if at all.

President Bush in a recent joint news conference with China never brought up
the matter of cyber relations.

Symantec's Securityfocus said on Full-Disclosure they didn't want to run the
allegations that the United States had broke into Chinese networks because
there was weak evidence to backup the claims.

Earlier comments by George W Bush suggested he had no intelligence on the
matters. Yet Pentagon officials clearly state in news reports that their
systems were shutdown due to cyber attacks coming from the Chinese.

On both sides there is little public evidence to backup claims of cyber
attacks.

Department of Homeland Security boss Michael Chertoff said the United States
would be making no further comments on the allegations that The Pentagon
suffered outages due to Chinese hacking.

After the claims made by The Pentagon, other nations have come out to say
they have been hacked by China as well.

However, n3td3v says it seems that these governments are hacking into each
other, including the United States hacking into China, the claim made by the
Chinese.

Some media reports say the United States government are sparking off a cyber
arms race.

"hackthegov" better known as "n3td3v" is a student from the United Kingdom.

If Securityfocus are going to report on an alleged cyber breach by China,
its only fair they report on an alleged cyber breach by United States,
n3td3v says.

http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/588

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