Message-Id: <20070921185132.62CCDDA820@mailserver8.hushmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:51:31 -0400
From: <full-disclosure@...hmail.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,<kristian.hermansen@...il.com>
Subject: Re: Hacking software is lame -- try medical
	research...

Dear Kristian Erik Hermansen,

It sounds like you are friends with a lot of people that would make
good Youtube material[1].

What makes your friends so special?  A lot of geniuses are dying in
the world.  Consider African children[2] that are smart enough to
crawl towards food, but fail en route and become food for the
lesser intelligent lultures.

It sounds like your friend has had a good life up to this point,
and is much more fortunate than most Asian children[3].  Sure his
life might be ending soon, but at least he got to eyefuck a lot of
babes at Berkeley.

Maybe if his health were important to him he'd be studying
something pertinent to helping other people.  Medicine or
anthropology perhaps!

... or is it because he needs the achievement of getting a PhD in
something, and knows he may not live long enough to become a real
doctor?  Or is he too stupid to understand that not all doctors
cure diseases?  Maybe God wants this guy to die.

I read somewhere that incest can lead to various genetic defects. 
If you don't have what your brother has, which one of your parents
is lying?

Maybe you should cross-post your stupid fucking sob story to other
unrelated industries' mailing lists.  I'm sure the food industry
wants to stop producing frozen waffle technologies to direct their
efforts to save a couple random fat people that you know.

In closing, I hope you also become Youtube material sometime.  Soon.

[1] http://tinyurl.com/2blvo5
[2] http://tinyurl.com/2n5xk4
[3] http://tinyurl.com/yoj2a6



On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:37:20 -0400 Kristian Erik Hermansen 
<kristian.hermansen@...il.com> wrote:
>Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this 
>week
>and it got me to thinking.  Yes, hacking software is lame.  Cool, 
>so
>you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed 
>application,
>service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly.  Why don't we 
>spend
>our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular
>diseases instead?  For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a 
>very
>rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis.  It is also 
>better
>known as LCH.  It can be identified as causing such further 
>diseases
>as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar 
>diabetes).
>Have you heard of these diseases before?  Let me educate you…
>
>General Information:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus
>
>Seven Part Video Series:
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI
>
>And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in
>Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's 
>Disease.
> This costs $550,000 / year to treat.  That's a hefty bill every 
>year
>(you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance
>companies might refuse to accept you due to "pre-existing" 
>conditions.
> So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has 
>not
>been treated for two years.  A genius might die.  That's 
>ludicrous.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU
>
>If we consider ourselves decent "hackers", why don't we put our
>efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than 
>some
>very simple programming vulnerability?  Is it because then we 
>would
>have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-
>educate
>ourselves to be successful?  Think about it…
>-- 
>Kristian Erik Hermansen
>
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