Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20070926031614.070863f0@mail.mindtheater.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:19:01 -0400
From: Nancy Kramer <nekramer@...dtheater.net>
To: "James Matthews" <nytrokiss@...il.com>,blah <blah@...kogre.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: CN spam links in Google and Yahoo

Google is supposed having some issues with this type of stuff.  This has 
been on some webmaster boards although I have not seen or experienced it.
No one really knows how it happened but I personally think it is somehow 
related to the fact that Google had some DNS issues with their crawler or 
something like that reported in the last month.  Google is very secretive 
so it is hard to figure out what if anything went wrong but if one can 
successful attack DNS one can do a lot of damage to the internet.

Regards,

Nancy Kramer
Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com
Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars
One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web




At 05:17 PM 9/25/2007, James Matthews wrote:
>If you run a blog you can see easily why these sites are indexed! I get 
>hundreds of spam comments from them!
>
>On 9/25/07, blah <<mailto:blah@...kogre.com> blah@...kogre.com> wrote:
>>Read your SANS diary daily!
>>
>><http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3408>http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3408
>>
>>Spammers feeling lucky with Google
>>Published: 2007-09-21,
>>Last Updated: 2007-09-21 07:31:49 UTC
>>by Bojan Zdrnja (Version: 2)
>>
>>For quite some time spammers have been trying to hide links advertised
>>in their e-mails. The main reason for this is probably increasing
>>effectiveness of various realtime blocklists, such as SURBL. For those
>>that aren't familiar with SURBL 
>>(<http://www.surbl.org>http://www.surbl.org ), it's an RBL
>>that lists list URIs found in spam e-mails. In other words, instead of
>>listing spam zombies or relays, RBLs like SURBLs list sites that are
>>referenced in advertised spams.
>>
>><SNIP - you get the idea - or click above>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9/25/07, Steve Ragan <<mailto:sragan@...y.rr.com>sragan@...y.rr.com> 
>>wrote:
>> > 
>> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20070924/tc_zd/215816>http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20070924/tc_zd/215816 
>>
>> >
>> > I've seen this a lot lately, and I don't see how these sites were allowed.
>> > Is there anyone here who can shed some light on this?
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > Excerpt:
>> >
>> > "A reader, Courtney Cox (no relation to the actress), recently pointed out
>> > to me that the top results of recent complex Google searches turned out to
>> > be inane Chinese sites that were not even parking sites, just an 
>> assortment
>> > of keywords that somehow got indexed and brought to the top of the results
>> > list. After seeing a few of these sites, I have to wonder what's going on.
>> > Is it sabotage?"
>> >
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