full-disclosure - Re: defining 0day

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Message-Id: <20070926013844.ABC61DA81F@mailserver7.hushmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:38:43 -0400
From: <full-disclosure@...hmail.com>
To: <thor@...merofgod.com>,<ge@...uxbox.org>
Cc: perrin@...theon.com, lamont@...iptkiddie.org, pdp.gnucitizen@...glemail.com,
	casper.dik@....com, rkuhn@....physik.tu-muenchen.de,
	full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
	crispin@...ell.com
Subject: Re: defining 0day

You do an excellent job of cross list carbon copy attacking (clcca 
is new 0day attack terminology), Gadi.  While CLCCA is an 
abbreviation for technical terminology, 0day is simply slang.  
Since you somewhere state that everyone is an expert in their own 
delusional little words, perhaps you can find your expertise in 
figuring out what the word slang means.  A bot herder such as 
yourself might wish to use m-w.com in their internet exploration 
tools.

One would imagine that with all the cardiovascular excursion you 
gain from typing these long-winded, non-technical, non-important, 
and otherwise entirely fucking stupid posts that you might start 
burning weight.  Perhaps you should try Clenbuturol.  Or if you are 
committed to weight gain, kerosene might help you get to our ideal 
weight for you - 21 grammes.  

Thank you and good night.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:02:27 -0400 Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org> 
wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Thor (Hammer of God) wrote:
>> For the record, the original term "O-Day" was coined by a 
>dyslexic
>> security engineer who listened to too much Harry Belafonte while 
>working
>> all night on a drink of rum.  It's true.  Really.
>>
>> t
>
>Okay. I think we exhausted the different views, and maybe we are 
>now able 
>to come to a conlusion on what we WANT 0day to mean.
>
>What do you, as professional, believe 0day should mean, regardless 
>of 
>previous definitions?
>
>Obviously, the term has become charged in the past couple of years 
>with 
>the targeted office vulnerabilities attacks, WMF, ANI, etc.
>
>We require a term to address these, just as much as we do 
>"unpatched 
>vulnerability" or "fully disclosed vulnerability".
>
>What other such descriptions should we consider before proceeding? 
>
>non-disclosure?
>
> 	Gadi.
>
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