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Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:10:43 +0100
From: "worried security" <worriedsecurity@...glemail.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to
	Criminal Activity?

You do know criminals read the mailing lists don't you? and if MI6 speak
about preventing criminals and terrorists on the internet, they are very
careful about what they say and their voice is distorted.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6150000/newsid_6153000/6153092.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&nol_storyid=6153092&news=1

those are obviously security folks who know what they're doing. but what do
ferg and gadi do, they speak on public mailing lists about preventing
criminal and terrorist activity, while inviting people to join them at
security conferences, inviting them to their blogs and not all, their
photographs are openly available on the internet. ever tried suicide lately?

the subject title is from a currently active thread on Nanog mailing list,
which I have big problem over in terms of the saftey of gadi and ferg,
because already someone on Full-Disclosure threatened to kill Gadi Evron,
and even if it was just a kiddie joke, there are probably real gangsters and
terrorists on the list who would kill you.
Be careful what you say in public.

Here is the thread related to what i'm talking about:
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg03638.html

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